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Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by rube, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    Z-Bac is the best prospect we have because he is a center and is actually talented enough to be a difference-maker at the position.
    Followed by the rookie we pick next. Probably Lonzo Ball.
    Then you have Ingram because of his unknown qualities buried in his potential.
    Russell has a lot of sheer talent but because he is kinda small for a SG and not a good defender to make up for it, and because while flashy he is not a consistent enough playmaker for a PG... he is kinda in that tweener mold that gets guys buried in 6th man roles.
    James Harden figured it out. What you need to do in that situation is get tough, go to the rim, and get them buckets.
    Be a volume scorer that still does enough playmaking to offset his defensive issues. In other words stop trying to be a 'good' player. You arent good enough to be a good player. But you may be just good enough to be a great player instead.
    He could next year be given 35 MPG and become a 24PPG scorer that drops 6 assists grabs 5 rebounds and 2 steals a night.
    Then pairing him in the wing with a long defender like Ingram becomes ideal.

    Randle is a really nice player but in his position we will most likely need another big scorer since our PG and SF look to be facilitators/defenders.
    Which is why we should look at a package that includes Randle and Clarkson next year and if we can one of the bad contracts to get back an elite scoring PF in return.
     
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    im not sure about Ball tbh
    i went to a few games this year since the kid is there and while he is impressive there are definitely some concerns imo
    he has a weird shot and seemed to lose interest during some games
    at the same time i guess it means Dlo has to go and maybe thats a good thing since he hasn't been very consistent
    dude is also ugly in a jason kidd kind of way but maybe he won't punch his wife
     
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    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    There are 5 PG's that we could pick that are better options than Russell.
    Not that Russell does not have what it takes to be good, just better off as a SG than PG.
     
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    Heres the question. What could we get for handle and d lo? If we got ball, we package those for an established vet and go after george.

    Ball
    George
    Ingram

    I just salivate at that lineup.

    Zu and nance are nice and jc off the bench adds scoring punch.

    Who could we get for dlo and randle?
     
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    If we had a real FO we probably could have had Boogie for them.
     
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    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    We still might if it becomes to difficult for NO to win with two dominant big men taking the ball from each other.
     
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    Yeah but if we had traded for Boogie, then we probably would have won more games and probably lost the #3 pick. Honestly I was glad they got rid of Sweet Lou, losing is what is needed for this team. Not sure if any one realizes, but if we convey this pick we also have to convey the 2019 pick. If we keep this pick the 2019 pick turns into 2 2nd round picks. So making sure we keep this pick is imperative this year.
     
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    TAFNAC Cossack Staff Member Administrator

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    Yeah...Important pick to keep. Still sweating that 45% chance of losing it.
     
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    Agreed!!! The only saving grace, IMO, is Magic will bring credibility to an unstable office and hopefully that can draw a few FA.
     
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    Paul George but then who is realistic?
    We should have PG locked up by then as any of these 5 lottery PG's seems like star material, but not #1 option.
    At least one from Clarkson, Ingram, or Russell will break out and be a star swingman maybe a #2/3 option.
    I doubt we find a better C prospect available than Zubac.
    George takes the other swingman spot and thats good. He is a solid #2 but may end up being our #1 option.
    Which leaves big forward.
    I am not sure if between the current crop of bigs 4's there is #1 or 2 option between them.
    Unless Ingram is Pippen and Russell is Harden and Lonzo Ball is Kidd then its ok if Randle isnt Draymond but something less.
    Maybe Zubac isnt a Divac or quite a Marc Gasol... but as a started he should give you a good 14 pt, 9 rb, 2 bk, shoot decent protect the rim, be a little active with good size and be a good role player all without much trouble.
    But Randle or Nance then have to play with much more consistency to qualify.
    You would have to take all of their good games from their best season and double it next year.
    Then he would have enough good games to start to be a candidate.
    As much as i like Nance as a bench piece, if you can get a bonafide star PF for a package of Clarkson/Randle/Nance then you pull the trigger.
    Fill the bench with less expensive veteran role players.
    Or maybe young almost stars like Derrick Favors.
    Favors and George as FA plus a trade to bring another PF.

    PG: Ball, Russell
    SG: Russell/Ingram
    SF: George/Ingram
    PF: Big Trade/Favors
    C: Zubac/Favors

    Thats a good core of 7 guys.
     
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    Worthy and Jamison are disgusted as I've ever seen them on the postgame show.

    These guys obviously don't give a shit and don't respect their coach.
     
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    That's too much for Boogie in general, but especially w/Zu already on board @ the 5.
    No overpaying just for the fuck of it.
    Zu has a 17.5 PER.
    17.5..same color t-shirt. Lol
    Popovich said Randle was one of his favorites @ USA team work outs last summer, so maybe Aldridge would be available w/Randle as the centerpiece, but at the same time Aldridge is underwhelming himself a good portion of the time and is turning 32yrs old in a sec
     
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    I would not trade the kids for Aldridge.
     
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    Blake griffin has a player option next year. Do the lakers make a trade with the team across the hall???

    Say DeAngelo/Nance/Houston Pick

    Then you run with Clarkson and Ball in the back court, Ingram at the 3, Griffin at the 4 and Zubac at the 5. Then in 2018 you sign Paul George.
     
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    Griffin is a FA this summer.
    Or at least he can opt out and be one if he likes.
     
  17. Fall Winslow

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    Oh and no thank you to Griffin.
    Seemingly always hurt.
     
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    Byron warned anybody who'd listen about the maturity of these youngsters and people just laughed at him. I supported him when he was kicking DLo's ass w/the benching and battling DLo in the media and what not because Byron's experienced enough to know who needs that. Say what you want about his shaky X and O ability, but Byron did have experience on his side in terms of working relationships/personalities. But then I thought I'd see more of a jump in DLo's play this year and didn't..with no Byron to hang excuses on. Didn't see much of a jump from Clarkson either this year..which is a downer after signing him to that contract.

    Randle is progressing, doesn't shoot a ton of jump shots, but when he does they look good..in fact he's shooting 50% from 10-16 feet on the year and 35% from 16+ feet out. His energy level has been up and down, but he's probably playing the biggest role on the team ala Draymond with GSW, and he's young, so it's to be expected for now. It's intriguing to know that Luke told Randle to be more aggressive and then he was able to bust out immediately afterwards..maybe points to Randle potentially stepping back a tad and allowing Ingram to fit in.

    Either way, Zubacalypse looks outstanding for a 19yr old [no homo]..birthday in a couple days. I would go back and forth on whether or not I wanted Boogie, or if it made sense to make the kind of trade SAC wanted to get him, but with Zu going hard Boogie is old news regardless. Some scouts said Zu was probably the 2nd or 3rd best player in the draft and he looks it, so yeah..excellent draft. LAL has a real foundation up front w/Zu-Randle-Ingram, but a questionable backcourt. Generally, you expect to see guards progress quicker, but LAL may have it in reverse here...which is ultimately excellent because good guards fall off trees ( as we're about to see in this draft). This team could get better in a hurry because of how fast the front court is progressing. Oh and Ingram's shooting since January has been up..43%FG and 33% from 3pt land, 10pts/4reb/2ast.
     
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    ^that back court could get a serious boost with George and Ball in the mix!!!
     
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    DLo with the push/step back combo Lol

     

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