GAME THREAD ASTROS/DODGERS World Series

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  1. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    MLB Analyst: Dave Roberts had “A Very Bad Series”
    CBS Sports Radio — 17 hours ago

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    The Houston Astros won their first World Series in franchise history Wednesday, beating the Dodgers, 5-1, in Game 7 in Los Angeles. The Astros jumped on Yu Darvish early – just as they did in Game 3 – scoring five runs in the first two innings. The Astros arms took it from there, scattering six hits and allowing just one run.

    For this, the Astros – who beat both the Yankees and Dodgers in seven-game thrillers – deserve credit.

    “I just love all the young energy,” MLB Network Radio and MLB on TBS analyst Casey Stern said on CBS Sports Radio’s After Hours with Amy Lawrence. “It was a lot of fun and the cool part of this team is that we always have that question about chemistry and is it important. Clearly you have to have players that are good, but there’s absolutely no doubt that the chemistry this club has, the way they believe in each other, the tight-knit group, the energy that you could see through the TV when you’re watching on the field or at home, I think that was a big part of why they won. I think it’s a special group, and they’re not going anywhere for a while. They’re going to be around now.”

    The Dodgers, meanwhile, deserve some criticism – Dave Roberts, specifically. Was winning 104 games – the most since 1953, when the franchise played in Brooklyn – a success? Yes. Was advancing to the World Series – for the first time since 1988 – a success? Yes.

    But Roberts will likely be kicking himself for sticking with Darvish, who was chased in the second inning for the second time in this series.

    “Look, I think Dave is fantastic. I know him well, I love him, I covered him in ’04 when I was covering the Red Sox. He is a good person, and he will learn from this,” Stern said. “But he had a very bad series. I don’t think he necessarily got out-managed because I don’t think it was necessarily toe-to-toe in that way, but I think he had some bad moments. . . . I think pulling Rich Hill in Game 2 early put him in a bad spot. (Kenta) Maeda got tired, (Brandon) Morrow got tired, and they were kind of chasing themselves in that bullpen ever since then.”

    For the series, Darvish allowed eight runs on nine hits in 3 and 1/3 innings – good enough for a 21.60 ERA and a 3.30 WHIP.

    “The first game you could tell he didn’t have his stuff,” Stern said. “Sometimes with pitchers, they just don’t have it. He had no feel of the fast ball, he couldn’t spot any of the curveballs, his slider, and he just left him in there to give up runs. Tonight was the worst move of them all. I was literally losing my mind because I’m rooting for a good game and I’m screaming. You cannot sit there after Darvish looked bad in the first inning. If you’ve got Clayton Kershaw available – who should have started this game anyway when you saw how good he was – you got to put him in there. You got the best pitcher on the planet. You got Alex Wood behind him. You don’t sit there and watch Darvish. This is Game 7. This isn’t May 9.”

    After allowing two runs in the first inning, Darvish walked Brian McCann and gave up a double to Marwin Gonzalez to begin the second. At that point, Roberts, one would think, would go to his bullpen.

    Nope. He left Darvish in the game. Three batters later, it was 5-0, with George Springer going yard for the fifth time this series.

    “You allow yourself to get in a position where Darvish gives up a two-run home run,” Stern said. “That should have been a 2-0 game. That was on Dave Roberts, and I think it was the worst decision we probably saw honestly from a manager in the postseason. Everybody talks about Dusty (Baker) with (Stephen) Strasburg and Joe Maddon had a few blunders. When you get in a spot like this, (you have to have) urgency. You cannot get in a position where you’re watching Darvish give up five runs – and that was the difference in the game because guess what? The amount of runs allowed after Darvish left? Zero.”
     
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    so 12 hours ago lol
     
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    yeah last i checked. Kenley game 2
    Kershaw choke game 5.

    still the reason why we lost.

    last I checked one will still be out ace and the other our closer next year.

    so. keep the same squad for the most part, Get back and hopefully they don't choke again. :kike:
     
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    I gotta admit, it still sucks.

    We live up here in enemy territory, and my kids have been raised to be Dodger Blue through and through.

    My older boy has a huge LA symbol on his wall, and we leave the house with our Dodger hats on.

    When the Gnats won multiple times, it wasn't a big deal other than having to deal with insufferable Gnat fans.

    But in the back of my mind, I always thought we'd get one. This year felt good, especially after Game 6.

    Turns out, when the Dodgers lost, I was more upset than the kids. They're young so they have never seen the "glory days". They think it's normal.

    And that is what upsets me....losing like this seems normal to them. The stories I tell of Gibson, Orel, Fernando, Cey, etc......, and it kinda sounds like catching the big fish tales.

    What I don't want them to be are a bunch of sad sack Red Sox fans or Cubs fans or Indians fans that have to put a Dodger hat on my gravestone the next time they win a WS. This is not what I want.

    These Dodger assholes better know how to WIN. These so called studs better learn how to WIN.

    At this point, sign a MadBum, a Springer, Gregorious....people who are clutch. I don't care anymore.... Truth be told, I'm tired of CK's holy heart and oh gosh BS....give me a win when it counts. I hate bubble machines and "we have your back" pep talks. Just win.

    I saw a documentary about Johnny Unitas. Before a big game, the Baltimore coach gave this rousing pep talk to his team. He turned to Unitas for additional fiery words. All he said was "Talk is cheap."

    Yes, just get it done. Players need to play, skippers need to know what they are doing. Right now, I don't see that.
     
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    just have to wait out all the video and internet stories
    those will be gone soon enough
    and when the free agents start signing
    and the trades start happening
    we can start getting our hopes up again
     
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    I used to struggle with sports too. I never had anyone to show me the ropes on how to be a fan. Did not have that dad or older brother to teach me. So I became a victim of being a sports fanatic missing the point of the beauty of sports in the process. I had to learn how to do being a sports fan.
     
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    Jonathan Villar and Zack Cozart think you're a great fan and wish there were more like you.
     
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    Yep. Agreed. Drysdale would have bkitch slapped Darvish and sent him to the showers. Gibson would have hit Gurriel EVERY time he came to bat.

    Dodgers got no stones.

    This. I too avoided this thread and all related news until now because the pain was too real. But both of my kids were awesome because they knew it mattered to me. And that nothing could fix it but time. And even if my kids are both adults the compassion of kids for their parents is huge. Now DO NOT EVER miss a father daughter dance or any other thing with your kids... life is too short.

    The Dodgers came close, but no cigar. It takes a lot of years of failing to accept that, but at least we're not gnats fans
     
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    loved drysdale
    my favorite dodger ever
    was as tough as anyone to ever put on a uniform
    yet one of the nicest/most humble guys off the field
     
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    sounds like college
    could say that about me back then
    diablo?
     
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    Don was a straight shooter. He always told it like it was!

     
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    and still one of my favorite calls of all time...

     
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    just occurred to me this thread is astros/dodgers world series
    could it be the thread maker jinxed this series?
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    funny you should mention that
    i made sure to create/launch the thread the same way i did for the lds and lcs
    so it must have been someone else...








    Dave Roberts hates this.
     
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    damned thread makers :poke:
     
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    Can we delete this damn thread already?

    I'm already depressed enough as it is without seeing it whenever I come here.
     
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