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  1. Fall Winslow

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    Lakers’ Luol Deng buyout is even more brilliant than you think
    The Lakers have their stuff together.
    By Tom Ziller@teamziller Sep 2, 2018


    Be afraid of the Los Angeles Lakers. Not only do they have Magic Johnson and LeBron James. But this front office is legit. Witness the Luol Deng buyout.

    As foreshadowed by the prescient Mark Deeks earlier this week, the Lakers indeed reached a buyout agreement with the veteran Deng that went into effect on September 1. They used the stretch provision to do it, shrinking the salary cap burden of the contract on an annual basis by extending the pain over a longer time period.

    That’s important, because it helps the Lakers in their quest to add another superstar free agent next summer. By buying out Deng with the stretch provision, the Lakers immediately enter the race for Kawhi Leonard or DeMarcus Cousins with no further moves necessary.

    But it gets even better.

    Pulling off this buyout with the stretch provision after August 31 allowed the Lakers to keep the cap hit for Deng’s 2018-19 salary full while stretching only salary due to him in 2019-20. That shrinks the dead cap on the Lakers’ books going forward substantially.

    The stretch provision allows you to waive the player and for salary cap purposes only charge the amount owed in equal installments over a term equal to twice plus one the years left on the deal. The Lakers owed Deng $36.8 million over two years thanks to the largesse of the team’s previous front office. Had the Lakers waived and used the stretch provision on August 31, L.A. would be carrying $7.36 million in dead cap space for five years, a huge burden.

    However, shrinking the Deng’s cap hit for 2019-20 would give the Lakers $35.8 million in cap space in the critical summer of 2019: enough for a max contract for a player with less than 10 years of service, like Leonard, Cousins, Jimmy Butler, Klay Thompson, or Kemba Walker.

    By waiting until September 1, Deng’s 2018-19 salary became fully committed, meaning the Lakers could only stretch his 2019-20 salary. This is fine, because there’s no reason for the Lakers to clear 2018-19 cap space now: all the players you’d use it on are signed! The other reason a team might use it — to minimize luxury tax payments — are irrelevant to the Lakers. By waiting, the Lakers would instead count $18 million of Deng’s contract against the 2018-19 sheet and carrying $6.27 million in dead cap space for three years.

    That’d get the Lakers’ 2019 cap space to $36.9 million — a little bit more cushion for signing a player with less than 10 years of service to a max contract. Those players are projected to sign for $32.7 million in starting salary next summer.

    But what about players with 10 or more years of service, like, say, Kevin Durant? Their projected max starting salary next year is $38.2 million. So stretching Deng over three years wouldn’t quite do the trick. There would need to be another move to make the space.

    Unless the Lakers convinced Deng to take a discount to get out of his contract.

    Which they did.

    Deng agreed to give up $7.5 million off the $36.8 million owed to him. It’s not cap trickery: it’s real salary that Deng will relinquish just to free himself from the contract and join another team.

    That buyout discount — which is steeper than normal, as players aren’t usually willing to give up substantially amounts contractually owed to them for obvious reasons — is split over the two years even though Deng’s full salary will count against the cap this season. So the Lakers’ irrelevant Deng cap hit for 2018-19 becomes $14.3 million, and the amount to be stretched over the subsequent three years becomes $15 million, which becomes an annual dead cap weight of $5 million per year.

    Remember, Durant’s 2019-20 starting max salary is $38.2 million.

    The timing of the stretch provision down to the day, plus the buyout discount Deng agreed to down to the dollar, give the Lakers projected 2019-20 cap space of ... $38.2 million.


    Is Durant remotely interested in joining LeBron on the Lakers? No one knows. But on the chance that he is, the Lakers are ready to give him every dollar he deserves ... just like they were prepared to do for LeBron this summer. Preparation is the mother of success.

    The Lakers’ front office drew guffaws when it followed up the LeBron coup by signing Lance Stephenson, Michael Beasley, and JaVale McGee. No one should be laughing anymore. The Lakers are worth fearing again.










    Almost like they have a former agent @ GM
     
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    Under the radar, the Morris twins have signed on with LeBron's agency. If LAL misses on Durant and lands the cheaper Kawhi, should be enough space left to add one of the twins..maybe take the one from the Celtics to hurt their toughness a bit. Run twin at the 5 some in a lineup with BI/Kawhi/Kuz/LeBron, 6'8"/6'9" across the board
     
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    i understand why deng didn't fit in exactly but the whole situation is really odd
    don't remember anything quite as strange since davis benched marcus allen
    he obviously had talent and could of contributed
    hearing they wanted to get him playing time and he declined is just bizarre
    if he's making that kind of coin he should be sweeping the floors if thats what they want
     
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    It is weird and the Marcus Allen thing is exactly how this looks to me too.
    Maybe Deng flirted with Jeannie or something. Or worse yet... flirted with Vanessa.
    It is entirely possible that the money went to his head in some weird way.
    Like coming in and feeling like he is the new face of the franchise since he had the richest contract on the team.
    Maybe if the tank commander was still around that could have worked for him.
    It probably alienated him from the kids right away and from what Luke wanted to do in terms of team building.
    Like start me or give me a key role or im not gonna play. I did not sign a whopping contract to beg for minutes type of deal.
    The previous administration might have also sold him a bill of goods. Pumped up his ego as the next great Lakers star only to have that ego popped by the new reality.
     
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    https://www.silverscreenandroll.com...-la-lakers-favor-klay-thompson-2019-offseason
    Per Ramona -

    “In terms of who they target next year, it’s whoever wants to come. “My feeling about it, my sense from just talking to people in and around this (is that) one, it’s a little early, but I think they like Mychal’s boy. I think that would be the guy, in terms of skillset and how that would fit. Obviously Kawhi, he’s a great player as well, but we’ll see if he stays in Toronto now. But I think they like Klay (Thompson).”







    I would agree with Klay over Kawhi. Pretty much a 1 over 1B type of situation. Klay >>> Paul George
     
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    Yup, I want Klay too. Legacy move.
     
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    So over the last few months AD has bought a home in LA, fired his agent and is now expected to sign with Rich Paul/LeBron's agency Klutch sports
    His last guaranteed year in New Orleans is 19/20
     
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    Bynum on the comeback trail, has hired reps
    Bynum being 30 doesn't make me feel old at all
     
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    80 yr old knees
     
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    Somewhere Roy Hibbert is juiced up, gathering momentum like the Hulkamaniac
     
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    Melo Ball is going to be the Ball boy that grows to 6'10" or something silly like that, isn't he?
    Looks like he's about 6'7" now, maybe a little taller than Zo
     
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    So Luol Deng signs with the Timberwolves, rejoins the man who ran him down, Thibs.
    All they need now is C Joakim Noah to complete the PG Rose/SG Butler/SF Deng/PF Gibson Timberbulls.
     
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    That team really should have been a lot better than it was.

    I ussd to think Thibs was a good coach
     
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    He is... for about 2 or 3 years max.
    He would make a good tank commander.
     
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    Bring back Bynum.
    He always wanted to shoot 3's and outside jumpers which is why coach kept killing him.
    He can block shots and defend the paint.
    He is in the best shape of his life, ripped and lean.
    He played with LeBron for a lil bit before being traded for Deng.
    It is almost meant to be.
    Look at the form.
    https://twitter.com/ChrisJHoops/status/1039003829818146816
     
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    They were the 3-seed in the west until Jimmy Butler got hurt
     
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    pretty sure everyone is thinking that lol
     
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    I just heard the news but i figured most laker fans hated Bynum and would not like him back.
    Happy to be wrong as he would complete the lineup.

    Lonzo
    Ingram
    Lebron
    Kuzma
    Bynum

    A crazy matchup at every spot.
     
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    and a 30 month old attention span
     

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