GAME THREAD DODGERS/REDS

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Sep 9, 2018.

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series prediction/odds...

  1. wood goes >4 innings (38.7%)

    25.0%
  2. ryu goes >5 innings (41.3%)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. kershaw goes >6 innings (49.1%)

    50.0%
  4. bellinger looks like he's never played baseball (67.9%)

    50.0%
  5. grandal complains about called strike (100.0%)

    62.5%
  6. barnes goes 0-4 w/ 4 k's (88.2%)

    75.0%
  7. mehchado continues to get himself out (99.4%)

    37.5%
  8. verdugo gets >1 at bat (17.4%)

    50.0%
  9. muncy gains >15 pounds (31.3%)

    25.0%
  10. we get swept (50.0%)

    37.5%
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  1. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    I was with them every step of the way. While they were winning these divisions and being 1 step away from winning it all.
    You dont play in the past though. It is 99% about today and 1% about tomorrow. Yesterday needs to be just a memory.
    Dave continues to make bad decisions at an alarming rate. Not 'mistakes' they all make mistakes.
    It is the philosophy behind them that is wrong and perpetuates the mistakes being mistakes that don't create learning opportunities for growth.
    Do you see anyone growing from their mistakes?
    Other than Puig of course.
    In fact we would have done better with Puig as manager this year.
    Because Puig goes by a winning philosophy, not a losers mindset.
    He will fuck up a lot but he will learn and try to correct.
    Dave cant correct because he is tied to his philosophy.
    It is why his players don't give a shit about him.
    He 'cares' too much about the players and seeks them.
    You dont seek, you never seek.
    Players need to come to him not the other way around.
    Its not an ego or macho thing either.
    You know the climate needs to change when the manager has to tip toe around a nobody like Chris Taylor who bristled back at his coach for using the politically incorrect term that is 'line drive hitter' when describing him.
    Line drive hitter is taboo now much like the RBI producing veteran.
    These soft ass players don't want to be called line drive hitters or have anyone mention that their high launch angle is maybe not best for them. They have learned from the nerds all over the media and the front offices (same fraternity) that higher launch angles means more power and more power means more money and fame.
    And calling someone a line drive hitter is like a euphemism for 'cant hit home runs'.
    We know Puig is a line drive hitter, we know this, he knows this. But for a little bit he fell victim to the launch angle mess they probably forced down his throat.
    Now they have to gingerly bring up the subject with players that maybe they should lower that angle just a tad, if they don't mind.
     
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    The learning curve for Puig is over. He is who he is.......an underachieving mediocrity through no one's fault but his own.
     
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    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    sure, but that was nowhere near the point we are talking about
    but hey let's not waste an opportunity to shit on one of the few guys out there that has a ticking heart and some fire in his belly
    back on topic... Dave would have kept Kirk Gibson in the clubhouse for 'his own safety' in 88 instead of letting him completely demoralize the opposition with one swing
    that is how you build team morale
    by having heart and a fire in your belly
    because this world was built on the backs of people with 10 cent heads
    the types of guys might lack the genius of the nerds but they know how jocks itch
     
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  4. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    the whole team sans turner is weak
    too many terrible approaches/at bats
     
  5. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    wouldn't have got past the mets w/dave managing
     
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    guess i'm one of the few that thinks the pig is a valuable piece of the team
    maybe not an offensive force but certainly has matured nicely
    and his defense is incredible
    give me five pigs for every spazmani
     
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  7. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    i like puig too but i understand the frustration
    but he's far from the only one playing poorly or selfishly
    thought he had some of the best at bats lately (outside of turner) and still got chastised because he lined into a dp
     
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    I like Puig too and think his best years have come from Roberts :D ;)

    Ok ok I’ll stop. I’ll just agree to disagree that dave’s a main reason for the 2018 suckitude.
     
  9. rube

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    you can love Dave and we will still love you
    we will give you shit of course
    and you can give us shit
    that is how it works around here
     
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    This new approach at the plate is slowly losing me as a fan. I wish we could go back to the time when good teams would post lineups featuring multiple line drive hitters, and the emphasis would be on getting on base and working as a team to manufacture a run. This launch angle mentality that accepts low batting averages and high K-rates is bad for the game, in my opinion. I'd love to see them get rid of the HR Derby. I can't believe how many sub-.250 batting averages there are today. Seems in the past if a team had more than 2, they'd be in the cellar.
     
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  11. CapnTreee

    CapnTreee Guest

    Yeah.. what he said.. how hard could it be??
     
  12. CapnTreee

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    No one is going to disagree that there is an art to 'hitting them where they ain't' and maaaaaaaaaaybe cabbage head Puig will figure that out.. someday.. but even without that talent he still makes massively strong contact pretty routinely.

    It also appears impossible to teach him how to hit up in the air or he'd have 40 HR's but I'll take mashed line drives any day.. and some find glove but Puig is a pretty darn good natural hitter to start with. 7 days out of 7 I'd rather see him starting in RF than Kike anywhere in the lineup.

    Of course blind squirrels find nuts too and Kike has won us games more than once himself
     
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  13. CapnTreee

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    Did anyone else giggle out loud reading that the po' SF vaGiants have lost 11 games in a row ? Couldn't happen to a better group of athletes.

    thinking about to dropping a 'cheer up bucko' email to my snotty Fay area brother in law





    except we suck and I'll be reminded in reply.. better wait until they're eliminated first
     
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    Talked a guy the other day who had a cup of coffee with the Expos back in the day and is now scouting for the Red Sox. He said, "what do you think of this launch angle shit? I remember when they called it an upper cut and it wasn't considered sound fundamentals."
     
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    Pitch count thing brings to mind a conversation I had with a former college teammate who played on the championship '80 Phillies. Later he was a pitching coach in the Phils' organization. He said pitchers would come into the dugout asking about their pitch counts. He tell them they had far fewer pitches than they had actually thrown. He said the young pitchers were so dialed into pitch counts it affected how they pitched. Needless to say he wasn't a fan of pitch counts.

    Not saying pitch counts don't have their place in the game, but an over dependence on them has led to a pussification (couldn't think of another term) of today's pitchers, especially starters.
     
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    fsudog21 DSP Legend

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    You mention Bosco. A Fresno St alum and renowned blood sucker (civil attorney) recently had the football field named after him (Brian Panish).
     
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    Doughty8 DSP Legend

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    So here is an interesting tidbit (at least to me) that no team has ever won a WS having lost every game of a season series against an opponent. This was the the 1st win against the Reds. Whew that was close so there's still a chance!! :D:D:D
     
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    Our recently shit-canned coach at Fresno (Tim DeRuyter) was a Bosco alum. So thanks for nothing there.

    I've got quite an array of attorney friends. One is a Panish-like blood sucker, but a great civil attorney. Another is a clone of Paul Newman's character in The Verdict, complete with the bottle (or more likely a bag of weed) in his desk drawer. Another is a recently retired public defender who has been either pickled or baked since high school.

    The civil attorney is one of the quickest witted people I know. Was in Fresno's Catholic hospital checking out a donor wall. I called him and asked where the hell his name was on this wall. He said, "we don't put money into that place. We take money out of it." Spoken like a true blood sucker.
     
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