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Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. LAdiablo

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    i didn't thanks
    the school is straight cash yay
     
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  2. CapnTreee

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    Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. More loony nonsense.
    Name one thing the GOP controlled White House, GOP controlled Senate and GOP controlled House did for the American people. WTF did the Democrats have the ability to do about anything?

    Umm OK guys you're locked out of the process ENTIRELY but what did you do for America while WE the MAJORITY were pillaging and looting?

    You actually serious with that drivel?
     
  3. CapnTreee

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    It sure was a rebuke by the spineless also-sold-out Democrats. OTOH AOC's poorly reasoned Green Deal was stillborn from the outset.

    Are we still allowed to agree once in a while?

    Ya fuq's still think I'm a Dem lover just because I recognize the corrupt theft of the GOP?
    Fuckin bilateral thinkers.. everything not the 'most' evil bad isn't good

    Queue @rube on that thought
     
  4. rube

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    or gold based debit card
    instead of bank you buy gold stored by brinks
    you use debit card backed by your own personal gold standard
    you can cash out at any time in either cash or gold bullion cubes shipped to you
    debit card you get is made out of actual gold
     
  5. CapnTreee

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    guess who lit up? LOLZ
     
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  6. CapnTreee

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    Yeah it goes back quite a number of years.
    Haven't learned the details yet
    I was hoping that I didn't need endless merchant statements or something to prove actual damages
     
  7. rube

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    yeah... no
    up to you if you dont want to believe
    ill give you one more
    puerto rico
    hot beaches
    low rents/real estate/workforce
    cheap awesome wholesome food
    wonderful people
    business friendly policies
    low business and local city taxes
    no federal or state income tax
    you can do business anywhere in the us while based in pr.
    its america but its not a state
    its essentially a freeport city state under us umbrella
    on the gulf of mexico in front of central america
    with colombia to the south and miami to the north.
    in the caribbean
     
  8. LAdiablo

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    i'll just say a couple of things about PR since i have been all over the island and count a couple of vg PR friends among my buddies
    while its true the people are genuine, outside of old San Juan and some tourist resorts its at best an avg American city and at worst a simmering shithole
    the entire center of the island is a super poor and dangerous barrio and if Bacardi didn't base out of there idk
    reminded me a LOT of CR and the huge potential but failing socialist ideals
    it would be a cool place to live under the right circumstances because of its proximity to Colombia and other fun locals
    Medellin is as close to an international city in the region as any place outside of Panama city
    beaches were cool but like castles if you've seen one...sorry if that sounds bourgeois
    food was pretty much the CA, SA beans and rice iirc
    now the women...
     
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  9. Sauce

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    Lol, how long have you been here? It does not matter how harmonious you are. How well supported your posts are. Any left leaning thoughts will not be taken seriously in this thread. If you have read any posts by TB or huh? you will know that their political views are immovable because they are founded in religious beliefs. Attempting to get them to recognize that the modern day Republican Party (a party that runs on Christian values) is corrupt is not going to happen. They will deny, deflect, and distract.

    Anyways. How about those tax returns?
     
  10. rube

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    the women...I figured u would have experience in that Dept.

    I have never been to PR but friends say there are great places in each of the other main coasts of the island and some nice highland areas as well.
    I would not venture much into the heartland either.
    More of a nice beach spot where you can base your residence for tax purposes and then spend 4 or 5 months in CA or elsewhere per year.
    Specially if you have an e-commerce business that does not require you to be in one place.
     
  11. CapnTreee

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    I missed the part where Puerto Rico has anything to do with gold, gold standards, private gold ownership or gold bullion credit cards. LOL

    OTOH I have extended family in PR and they are wonderful but I fully agree with @LAdiablo that one is well advised to stay on the beaten path
    Visiting from 'the States' we were treated awesome.. sort of expected from family
    The food was great, wonderful even, even if not so spicy like I prefer

    But the comment was about gold...
     
  12. CapnTreee

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    I largely agree. My last trip to PR saw some interesting 3rd world events
    As if the veneer of being a 1st world location is very thin and only applied where you're most likely to see it
    Look closely and the barrios are tucked out of sight mostly.. until you go too far down that road then they're everywhere
    Driving around with locals scared certain family members though I found it entertaining.. so long as I was with locals

    The "beaches and castles" comment was freaking hilarious
    Because of the bourgeois tone... even if it's true. And it is.
    Of course that makes me bourgeois too doesn't it? LOL Too bad.
    I've been privileged enough to have seen a bunch of castles.. and enjoyed them all. I'd still visit more of them in a heartbeat.
    Still have pics from the PR castle/fort Castillo San Cristóbal. Pretty cool place
    Beaches are cool too though after seeing a black sand or green sand beaches most PR beaches I saw were rather ordinary

    From my entirely bourgeois perspective that is.. LOL
     
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  13. CapnTreee

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    My point was about choosing your battles and not wildly blaming anything you don't like on The Right. Or The Left for that matter.
    Political views and religious views are different.
    I understand that many issues blur these lines so I take caution to try to make specific points.
    My last vent intended to illustrate "United Corporations of America" and not merely castigate those who feel compelled to buhlieve in one ancient fable or another.
    If you wish to address religious issues affecting politics then say so explicitly. I have. But not on this post because the corruption caused by corporate $$$ is far more evil than ancient fable spouters.

    I'm not even saying that I think differently on those topics but that lumping everything together to throw stones has no upside.
    No one learns. No one benefits.

    If you cared, and I'm hard pressed to locate supporting arguments that you do, then I'd suggest specifically addressing each issue.
    As I've aged I'm more and more bothered by the lack of ethics in DC, thus my typical rants.. which prompted @huh? last Q. Note how I answered him without slamming his choice of ancient fables as it was not germane to my point about corporate $$$ ruining our democracy.
    Perhaps a more constructive exercise would be to illustrate exactly how non-Conservative the beliefs of modern GOP lovers. Most appear Christians in name only, while extolling a great many more vile traits never heard of in church. Tolerance of your fellow man has turned into hatred of all with darker skin. Immigration policies which permitted our own forefathers to arrive freely in America are GOP twisted so far that 'get here without papers and you're sent away for 10 years' Say what? Talk about speaking out both sides of ones mouth. Let them in, assign a Tax ID and then close the door at night. Trump routinely supports violence against all minorities because he refuses to call out those perpetuating these heinous acts. Trump calls for a wall are supported but his demonizing immigrants, when his wife is one, is about as far from religious values as it gets.

    The GOP, and today's modern GOP lovers, hardly extol any worthy virtues even loosely related to Organized Religion.

    Therefore lumping everything together as The Right does nothing but incite more harsh replies.. and zero middle ground.
     
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    Yes you did miss the part.

    Where do you think the gold standard, private gold ownership, gold bullion credit cards would actually be a thing that can exist and work within the US framework?
     
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    1. How else are you supposed to adjust for purchasing power in different eras? Feelz? Everything seemed better then?
    2. All of those together might amount to 2%. Even if you lump them all into the lower class, still doesn't change the point. I looked up the data on the prision population, it was 500k our of 52M households in 1965, 2.3M out of 127M households in 2016. It's still shameful and the number should probably only be 10-25% of that, but it wasn't as high as I though, and only about %1/household higher than 1965. Numbers on the homeless are much harder to find, but I imagine its less than the gain of incarcerated.
    3. Speculation. Don't have the granularity for either era. Don't know if its worse (like you say) or better. Feelz will always tell you its worse now and better then.
    4. The data doesn't back that up. The data says that eat the stack and maybe save a stack have both decreased, while stacks and stacks have increased.


    I think the psychology surrounding this is fascinating. People will always assume it was "better" back then and things are getting worse now.
    It's very hard to admit that in general economy and quality of life is steadily improving. Both worldwide and in the United States.
    If you admit quality of life is getting better generally, then individuals have to look inward if their quality of life isn't up to their expectations.
    But if you can say that quality of life is getting worse for everyone, you don't have to shoulder as much responsibility for your own situation.
     
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    1. Nope. Talking to the wrong guy.
    2. Its who is in prison and for what and how long and why and how that affects entire communities for generations since those and other slavery replacing methods were implemented. For production to increase as it has there must be a slave class as in every empire in the history of the world. You don't stop having slaves you just catch and release your slaves and call it by another name. Empire and excessive luxury cannot function without slavery first in conquered territories and then at home as it eventually is viewed as conquered territory.
    3. Not speculation. Historical certainty
    4. Data says Jason Giambi is on par with Mike Piazza, Duke Snyder, Gary Sheffield career wise.

    That psychological reasoning is old news man. You think thats what im talking about?
    "In my day things were better"... that old yarn?
    How bout the opposite one known just as well that in the past things were tougher so we just had to deal with it having to walk 5 miles in the snow to get to school in wet clothes and we liked it. Proverbs can go either way and every grandma knows em better than a psyche.

    Things were horrible before the boom era we are talking about.
    As the country transitioned from all of the wars only to get into world wars.
    It was way worse before WW2 for the lower classes.
    The difference was the those at the top were not within reach.
    Nothing was within reach. Now it is and its in your face daily.
    A reality that you can see but can't feel.
    That is not a good 'feelz' to put into masses of uneducated lower classes.
    Even worse in the ones our own educational system will create.
    That is where those with those feels are going to get ideas that will upend state and current.

    Nobody is talking about how things are for everyone. Just the poor working class.
    They are the ones who define where a society is headed.
    Before you go forward you must always protect your six.

    The measure of a society is not the middle class or how many people are rich and how rich but how many people are poor and what kind of poor.
    Society is a herd of buffalo and if those at the front run so fast that they force the middle of the pack to play catch up leaving the trailing slow and otherwise challenged members of your community as easy pickins for predators.
    Sure thats Darwin for the win. A 'good thing' for the gene pool.
    Fuck that evil mentality.
    It is not a good thing for society to feed the predators.
    When a society does this they are close to the end.
    Like the mayans feeding virgins to the gods.
    If you feed a predator it gets stronger and it gets bolder.
    And soon enough it brings a friend and then another.
    Soon enough those predators start reaching the middle of the pack.
    After eating so many of the weak buffalo they are completely familiarized with the culture.
    The predator can enter the middle of the pack wearing his fine buffallo hair suit and fool all the other suits.
    Thats the flip side of the Darwin story they forget to get to.
    Like in silence of the lambs.
     
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    its not that i hate castles or anything its just such a huge and typically unnecessary way to show how small your dick must be
    at least in the family castles further inland
    now the fortress type castles like San Juan and Edinburgh i find incredibly fascinating
    lookout posts pointed toward raging seas w cannons ready fuck yes
    and the different ways they were able to feed the balls to the artillery are pretty cool indeed
     
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  18. CapnTreee

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    POTY candidate...funny as fkuck
     
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    Pikeys...
     
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  20. CapnTreee

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    Yeah my take is that you're referring to the difference between true castles meant to withstand siege and capable of active defense vs. fortified manor homes of the uber rich and famous. If so then I agree.
    I once stayed at the Adair Manor a truly impressive manor home with it's own acreage of vegetable gardens and a private golf course. Still just a damned fancy big house where they NEVER swept the spiders out of the entry hall (yuck cried Blue Eyes) vs. staying at Kilkea Castle, a tiny 29 room stone castle 2 hours out of Dublin, nestled in a swale among trees with ramparts and 11 foot thick walls where it's first line of defense was being hard to locate. The locals told stories of the neighboring village getting ransacked because they couldn't locate the castle.
    I also visited monstrous Carcassonne castle in southern France which protected their king once upon a time and was so large that the entire village lived inside and an opposing army tried to lay siege and gave up after a year and sacked some other place.
    Defensive castles with channels for the boiling oil to spill out gargoyle mouths onto the front gate, arrow slots everywhere and stacks of cannon balls elevated for easy access for reloading were cool. Steep circular stairways that prevented (right handed) attackers from attacking while defenders could swing freely. Secret passages. Of course history shares many tales of castles being turned into prisons when their owners sided with the wrong team such as Chateux de Foix which was cool for its location with amazing views up and down the valley and it's three stone towers, round, square and triangular one of which the owner died in for backing the wrong side.

    Defensive castles = way cool whereas manor homes = tiny stubs
     
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