DODGERS NEWS/RUMORS thread

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  1. LAdiablo

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    the only real argument is how his contract is set up
    since its based on incentives and innings he gets screwed if he goes to the bp
    at the same time he signed it yet it would seem they could architect an improvement to keep everyone happy
     
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    Good points. Time to move him is now so he can get fully acclimated to the pen well before the playoffs. Much better than just sticking him in the pen right as the playoffs begin. And if he takes a shit as a reliever in the regular season, he could be left off the playoff roster. Better finding out before the playoffs than after they begin.
     
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  3. lastatman

    lastatman DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    Too often we cater to athletes to not "annoy" them. He's still pocketing millions. It's his own under-performance that justifies the move, not the team screwing him over. I'd rather win 105 games if that means HFA over the Astros or Yankees (plus a less taxed pen).
     
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  4. Doughty8

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    Update from my last post. From reading the DFA article it seemed to indicate that a player would be eligible for the post as long as he is on a roster before 9/1. He has steadily lost his velocity since the 1st half of the season so he won't be picked up by anyone most likely. Wasn't lobbying for the pick up just saw his name and thought maybe because I have the utmost respect for Honeycutt's abilities. Lost in this season is the fact that this is his last as our pitching coach. HOPEFULLY Mark Pryor can carry on the tradition.
     
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    Must admit, the article by Houston Mitchell from the LAT really made sense to me. Probably because I'm not directly effected by the Dodgers blackout and the TV deal..so I didn't think of the long term results of kids growing up and not being able to see the players and root for them on the local team.
    Sure older guys wear the jerseys of the team past and present, because they grew up with past heroes and present.day ones, and Vin Scully. The younger kids not so much.
    but the younger kids now have none of this exposure...what happens when these kids can make their decisions themselves? What happens to this uncultivated potentially huge fan base?
    Not to mention that the super slick ownership group and FO have never even bothered with any kind of an explanation, or excuse, or reason why it all is like it is. To the fans in LA. Neither acceptance nor rejection of responsibility...where are the LAD in this all?
    Very insightful look at an organization that touts the " future is so bright " aspect heavily.
    But it'll be a little cloudier missing harvest, or minimum harvest, of fans in a decade or so.
    They'll essentially be strangers, brought on by years of past greed.
    Or whatever they want you to believe about it out there.
     
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    Outside of the really fascinating info on the bb caps in Ireland, ( I guess if you're a non- believer you wear an Atlanta Braves hat?), I kinda get that there is very little or no future for baseball eventually, in your opinion.
    As valid as anyone else's, for sure, but I'm glad I won't be around to witness it should it occur.
     
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    For me, a far, far cry from rolling around actually fighting as a kid over who was better...Mickey, Willie, or the Duke.
    Like George said, "All things must pass", I guess.
     
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    It's pretty embarrassing to go out to a restaurant with your friends or family and the Angels are on instead of the Dodgers
     
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    Great point.
    I didn't even consider that.
    Unspeakable, shocking horror...
     
  10. Fall Winslow

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    Guy always takes such pleasure in shitting on the Giants. Damn shame he's not hitting in the heart of LAD's order..better yet, leading off instead of Joc/Pollock

     
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    Nah, there's nothing he can really do this year to justify 13 years in my mind. Okay, I may take that back if the Phillies win it all this year and next, but that's not going to happen simply because Harper is not THAT impactful of a player.
     
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    Nah, nobody's that impactful of a player, that they're going to join that Philly team and put them over the top. Halos have Trout..obviously, he's been a 1 man gang in terms of impact for his whole career and have they won it all? What Harper does in Philly is separate from what he could've meant to the Dodgers' chances at multiple titles, leading off in front of Belli for the next 10+ years or whatever. If anybody should've been forking over whatever it takes for Harper, it should've been a team that's on the doorstep of winning a WS annually like LAD.

    VS RHP, .841 OPS
    VS LHP, .864 OPS..

    ..all we do is complain about Roberts' lineup inconsistencies..bums like Negron hitting 3rd yesterday. Think those OPS splits by Harper this season would offer the Dodgers' any lineup consistency at the top? You prefer the Joc/Pollock duo and all of their inconsistency? One guaranteed to be hurt and/or ailing, and the other absolute trash for month long stretches? There's nothing Harper could've done to justify 13 years from perennial WS fave LAD? BS.
     
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    The Harper, then Belli, then Muncy or Turner or Seagar is an awesome thing, should it have happened.
    Tired of hearing that some of the best signings are the ones they didn't make.
    So are some of the worst.
     
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    Postseason ball is just different. Same thing we keep finding out every year when we roll into the post with a powerful offense and they fail to carry their weight because guys' flaws get exposed. When the timing is there to add one of the most talented hitters in the game that's in his prime, gotta do that. Can't get wrapped up in the reg-season winning where the focus isn't as great game to game and the opposition is weak more than half the time.

    Take the Astros for example..the Astros have a core of big impact players that are in their prime, and older/experienced vets that are still performing like they're in their prime. Meanwhile, our biggest impact guys aren't. Turner is down and likely trending downward moving forward..this is our most reliable postseason guy. As great as Belli has been, he's not in his prime and doesn't have great postseason experience..even though he won LCS MVP, overall it wasn't a strong run for him. Our prime guys are Muncy ( a trash bin pick up from last year) and Joc. Just sayin. Is the postseason a crap shoot? To a degree, yeah. And LAD does come to the crap shoot with a bunch of chips, but they're also 3/4's blind with no arms.
     
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    great post
    postseason is indeed a crapshoot
    and while having the more weapons guarantees nothing...
    why wouldn't you do whatever you could to increase your chances?
    especially for a team that's just fallen short two straight seasons (and a 30+year dry spell)
    attendance figures are great... for ownership
    but to essentially shit on the fans who pay for everything is an insult
    $18 beers would be a lot easier to stomach had they picked up kimbrel
     
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    Can't downgrade Muncy because he was garage sale pickup. He's been good even since he was placed in the lineup and plays against both LH and RH.

    No comparison between he and Joc, who shits himself at the sight of a LH.

    As for the postseason, if the current version of Bellinger is 2019 postseason Bellinger, they're fucked.
     
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    Offensively, this team maybe the best in the majors.

    But the closer role really has me worried. If Jansen is going to need feminine products come October, we're screwed. Pitching matters in the post. Go ask CK.
     
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    Just the facts. Muncy's proven himself, but there's levels to this discussion. Are we placing Muncy on the same level as Harper? Same level as Altuve, Bregman, etc.? No, no, no. Half the time we aren't even sure where Muncy will play defensively and if he can get the job done when it matters both offensively and defensively.

    But yeah, it's definitely fun to have a young core of talented guys, but do the chickens come home to roost when it's time for big boy ball in OCT? That's the gamble you take when being led by young guys. They had a chance to slot a star in his prime in the middle of it all and take pressure off some of these kids and older fading guys and they blew it.
     
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    Especially when you consider what they were willing to spend on. Smh
     
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    There was nothing..nothing..they were going to be able to do in the reg-season to impress me this season. Already knew they were going to have their way with the NL..they are smack in the middle of a 1990's Braves run as far as dominating the NL. It's just a fact. They have it all going for them. But can't even just enjoy a great reg-season because this what LAD does to you.

    I was strictly looking for power moves that'd increase their chances of winning in OCT. Even the Braves said to hell with it and went out and locked in Fred McGriff, who was in his prime and an established star, to get them over the top. Kasten and his attendance fuckery had to be one of the worst moments..right up there with McCourt not being able to afford his own fuckin payroll
     
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