FEDIT POLITICS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. LAdiablo

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    well you'll excuse me if I think socialism and the people calling for it ARE the problem
    the fact we have a police and fire department does not equal what's being called for
    its the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy
    all of us want a safety net for those in need but thanks to the gobsmacking smegma of every liberal everyone feels entitled to everything
    I think this will make the French Revolution look like a tea party where we're headin
    all in the name of equality
    would pay attention if sanders, warpaint, dohbiden et al were actually breaking off some of their stacks
    the design is to protect the family jewels by first throwing the rest of us to the wolves
    just can't believe how many people are listening to this in a "free" country
    name ONE thing the government has taken over or created and run well...always comes back as something worse
    the answer is privatizing and maintaining free speech
    everyone gets a job and realizes personal responsibility and freedom of their soul
     
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    A long time ago.
    But to me, we are so used to lies, on a day to day basis now, words, as the old caveat goes, will soon have no meaning.
    It's either flat out lies, or self serving spin, so often and so flippantly spoken ( Trump's worst fault, imo), honor and integrity so rare, our young people have so little to look up to.
    I guess it's my generation or individual personality, but I liken things to the lyrics of the old song, " rock and roll will never die, it is here to stay"...
    Well, it did die. It didn't stay.
    Along with so many other other things and endeavors that seemed so worth while.
     
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    So voting for someone that sickens your every fiber of being makes you more free ? You must be joking.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    reagan was the last leader i felt good calling “my president”
    a good man who wasn’t afraid to call people out...
    but did so in a way so that progress could still be made (see gorbachev)
    he also seemed genuine
    clinton was similar in someways but the mere fact he was married to pantsuit disqualifies him from being sane
     
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    There are other elections on the local level. Nobody says you have to vote every office or either a candidate for Pres for example. It's crazy to me to complain about current state of affairs and say I didn't vote to change it in some small way. There are many many examples of countries that have no voting processes in place and are repressed and not free and are eliminated for opposing opinions. Hate to bring the people have died for this stuff argument but they did and will continue to do so. Not passing a moral judgement in any way.
     
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    Historians may beg to differ on Ronny and I liked him too. Fuck voting for President then brother. Other elections out there ya know.
     
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    Sure, if you use perfection as a criteria. Everyone knows no one is perfect.
    but to be forced, because of thinking it makes you free voting for vile people who nauseate you is...uh...with all due respect, fucking Nazi Germany.
    Rather, to be able to look and walk away from the slime and core of corruption is what makes freedom.
    Real freedom, anyway.
    It's my Right to vote. If I choose not to exercise that Right, for my own reasons, is every bit as valid as you feeling you have to.
    It was my DUTY to serve my country in the military. I did that because I agreed with that.
    But I'll be damed if I'm going to vote for either of two scumbags.
     
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    Fair enough man. Fuck voting for the President but I trust you're not sitting out ALL voting.
     
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    I respect your pov that we must vote to be just as correct as not voting. Time changes every heart and mind. You changed I've changed and we may change again.
    Yet we are still the same.
    We did not become part of the enemy just because we changed opinion.
     
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    Never consider a person an enemy unless they do deliberate harm to me, not worth it. Call it a pet peeve but if you don't vote and it turns out bad for you and your family don't complain is all. Disclaimer: Not directing previous comment on ANYONE here.
     
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    on this we agree 100%
    i just think people should do some homework before making a choice
     
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    You sounding religious.

    The enemy dont want socialism btw.
    People who want socialism aren't the true enemy.
    The ones that are using those who want socialism are the enemy. Once they get in power they will do away with these types of socialists. Just like in russia and China and every other red state.

    The enemy is the enemy even if they are capitalists.

    And ”all of us” don't want to help the poor.
    Whatever you think about the failures of how welfare and government works for those that need to depend on the gov... It is by design.
    The poor get poorer and the rich get richer is not accidental.

    That is how socialism works too.
    A free lunch always comes with a catch.
    And its not the catch of the day.
    Specially when you the new fish in a dirty blanket.
    Just like the natives in reserve.
    They also thought themselves to be the real Americans.
    Their braves were all sent home by Mr. Freeman.
    Mr. Freeman needs no job.
    He needs no government.
    He was born free. Not in a government institution and without the help of the dole.
    And that is an entitlement only allowed to good neighbors.
    Which begs the question.
     
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    Absolutely...with time comes change. Not necessarily wisdom, but change.
    When I was a kid, we all loved Mohammad Ali. But I loved him as a superb and beautiful athlete, with big bravado and a genius for entertainment along with those other attributes.
    When he refused induction, I put his " Black Muslim " beliefs as a valid reason...and, to a degree, that it was OK.
    But sometimes I thought why the fuck should I have to go and maybe die over there, but not him? Now he paid for it, by being banned from boxing at his absolute peak.
    But time passed, we came home ( some), and in more time, I listened more carefully to his story, and what w
    his statements really were about that time...and when he said " if there are enemies on the shore of America then give me a gun- I'll fight and die if I have to. But if you want me to go half way around the world and kill people who never did me any harm in any way- I won't go. To fight and kill those people in an old white man's war? No.
    Ain't no Vietnamese ever called me nigger. "
    That's when I changed my thinking about a lot of things.
     
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    Similar to me but I went with Chuck Baldwin.

    There was this thing about Ronny... He liked to invite astrologers to the white house. That was kinda weird.
     
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    I prefer spiritual
     
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    Dude, come on. We were just getting somewhere.
     
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    truly disturbing
     
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    I can honestly say, I have never liked a single candidate that has been offered since I was voting age (bush sr was first).
    Although, at the time I was cool with Clinton nutting on some fatty's dress while at work, so I guess that's the most I've ever liked a president.
     
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    You don't have to.
    Voting is for statists anyway.
     
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    But not voting is a kind of message.
    Low turnout should be an indicator that deligetimizes the system.
    The power of the government should be tied to how many people actually vote.
    Lower turnout should mean lower government power to do anything. There should be a system with the government's ability to tax is tied to voter turnout, regardless of who wins the election.
    That would be awesome.

    Now I wait for Ruven's mods to the idea with 384 different rules and cases to make it incomprehensible.
     
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