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  1. Fall Winslow

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    Dodgers Announce Howie Kendrick Deal
    By Jeff Todd | February 4, 2016 at 12:49pm CST

    The Dodgers have announced the re-signing of infielder Howie Kendrick to a two-year contract. Reports suggested the deal will pay the veteran $20MM.

    New details on the payout have been reported today by Jon Heyman (Twitterlinks). Kendrick will receive $10MM annually in each year of the contract, half of which will be deferred. But Heyman suggests that the deferrals won’t significantly reduce the contract’s value.

    While Kendrick says he’s “thankful” to be returning to L.A., he also tells Bob Nightengale of USA Today that he was shocked at how his market played out. Interest was minimal despite his long track record of sturdy production, said Kendrick, with the QO-driven draft compensation seemingly proving a significant impediment.

    “I figured there would be quite a few suitors for me, and nobody was really calling,” said Kendrick. “Here it is, getting close to spring training, and you keep hearing the same thing over and over. Nobody wanted to give up that draft pick. It was a shocker.’’








    His old Halo buddy Kendrys Morales went through the same not too long ago...then won a WS title with the Royals and told everybody to kiss ass.
    Lets hope for the same with Howie, but with us.
     
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    lastatman DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    If CC is DFA'd, and then another team signs him, is there a minimum salary that team would have to pay that would decrease what the Dodgers are on the hook for?
     
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    yes, but only the mlb miniumum salary
     
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    Can Dodgers build the bridge to Kenley Jansen?
    by Scott Andes | LA Dodger Report — 16 hours ago

    The dictionary defines a bridge as something that is intended to reconcile or form a connection between two things. The Dodgers are looking to build one of those things inside their own bullpen in 2016. How do the Dodgers build a bridge to closer Kenley Jansen? Dodger’s fans have been asking that question for several years now. So far the construction has not been completed. Maybe the builders are on union time.

    The Dodgers have been looking for that seventh and eighth inning guy for seemingly forever. Unfortunately the bridge keeps collapsing. Again possibly shoddy construction has been the culprit. The Dodger bullpen ranked 19th in MLB last season with a 3.91 ERA and 21 blown saves. Dodger’s relievers posted a .249 batting average against and a 1.28 WHIP. There is definitely room for improvement.

    How do the Dodgers build that bridge that we keep hearing about?

    There should be a lot of competition this spring for the bullpen roster spots and that coveted setup role. Fortunately the Dodgers have a lot of options to choose from and the depth is very good. Today I’ll take a look at the top three pitchers that could provide the bridge to Kenley and alleviate a lot of our agitation in the late innings. First let’s take a look back at the Dodger’s late inning bullpen performance from last season.

    The Dodger relievers ranked 20th in MLB from the seventh inning on. They posted a 3.77 ERA and a .238 batting average against in 472.2 innings pitched. Although if you look closer you can see that some of the numbers were possibly skewed. Things might not have been as bad as they looked. Dodger relievers allowed just 428 hits and whiffed 517 batters. That comes out to a 9.8 K/9 rate and an 8.1 hits per nine innings rate. The Dodger relievers actually ranked second overall in strikeouts per nine (9.9) and seventh in walks per nine (2.89). FIP registers the Dodgers bullpen with a 3.43 mark.

    The one thing that stood out at me was the Dodgers bullpen posted a .317 BABIP (batting average of balls in play) which was one of the highest in MLB. I normally don’t like quoting the luck stat, but it could point to the relief corp pitching into bad luck. That number is bound to come down to normal in 2016.

    Looking at the relievers assembling this spring I think the top three relievers would be left hander J.P. Howell, right hander Chris Hatcher, and right hander Yimi Garcia. The rest of the guys can fight for the remaining spots.

    J.P. Howell
    Strengths – Durability, dominant against left handers
    Weaknesses – susceptible to right handed bats, late season slumps


    Howell has been with the Dodgers since 2013 and has been considered one of the most consistent performers since coming over from Tampa Bay. Indeed over the last three seasons Howell has posted a 2.03 ERA across 155 innings pitched for the Dodgers. He’s averaged 66 games per season proving he’s always been very durable.

    Last year Howell had a massive split between left handers and right handers. This is why the Dodges probably view him more as a lefty specialist than a true setup man. However in 2014 he held right handers to a .197 average against and a .268 wOBA. In 2013 he held right handers to a .218 average against. So 2015’s struggles against right handers may have just been an anomaly.

    The problem with Howell seems to be his late inning slumps. He seems to get tired when the season reaches its final month. More specifically people always cite his .360 BAA in September of 2014. Last year he had a rough August (.412 BAA) but recovered to have a good September (.238 BAA). He had some trouble with runners in scoring position (.314 BAA) and high leverage situations (.345 BAA)

    Overall his body of work is solid. Howell’s numbers indicate he pitched into some poor luck. I wouldn’t be upset at all if he’s used to form that bridge to Kenley.

    Chris Hatcher
    Strengths – high ground ball and strikeout rates
    Weaknesses – pitching with runners in scoring position, low strand rates


    Hatcher would be another good choice to bridge to Kenley. Unfortunately he had a rocky start to his Dodger career. The first four months of the season he was horrible. His release point was all off and eventually he landed on the disabled list with an oblique injury. After being out for several weeks he returned to pitch very well.

    His worst performance came in the early months of the season. However he saved his best work for the last two months of the year. In August Hatcher limited opponents to a .167 batting average against, and a .186 batting average against in September.

    Hatcher’s problems also came with runners on base and in scoring position. With RISP Hatcher allowed a .351 BAA and .274 BAA with 24 earned runs allowed in each category. Hatcher throws hard averaging 95 on his fastballs and 87 on his slider and changeup.

    A good strength about Hatcher is his ability to keep the ball in the park. He allowed just four home runs all season. Hatcher’s ground ball percentage was 43.1% last year. Overall Hatcher posted a 3.69 ERA in 39 innings pitched while posting 45 whiffs against just 16 walks. Hatcher has a good arsenal of pitches and is able to display good command. The converted catcher should be able to provide a more solid season presuming he remains healthy.

    Yimi Garcia
    Strengths – very good strikeout to walk ratios, limits base runners, high swing and miss percentage.
    Weaknesses – too many home runs and fly balls, inexperienced.


    The third option would be second year hurler Yimi Garcia. The Dominican youngster enjoyed a good start to the season before falling victim to a league adjustment and mid season lull. The league seemed to figure him out and Garcia was unable to make the proper adjustments.

    Overall his body of work was good. Garcia posted a 3.34 ERA with 68 strikeouts and 10 walks across 56.2 innings pitched. His strikeout numbers were great. Garcia whiffed 10.8 batters per nine and had a 7-1 strikeout to walk ratio. He allowed just 7.0 hits per nine as well doing a great job of limiting base runners.

    Garcia was very good down the stretch as he posted a 1.23 ERA and 2.50 ERA in August and September with a .160 and .195 batting averages against respectfully. Garcia was just as good with runners in scoring position and high leverage situations. With runners in scoring position Garcia allowed a .150 batting average against and a .250 BAA in high leverage spots. Garcia’s strand rate was 85.2% against right handers and 73.7% overall. If Garcia has one chink in the armor it’s the home run.

    Garcia allowed eight home runs last season with the Dodgers and posted a 1.3 home run per nine rate. His fly ball percentage was 54.2% compared to his 28.5% ground ball rate. He strikes out a lot of guys but can be homer prone.

    I recently read an article stating that Garcia’s spin rate (measurement of movement on a pitch) was one of the highest for any reliever in all of baseball. That comes as no surprise as he’s always had that killer movement on his fastball and cutter. Garcia mainly throws a fastball/slider/cutter combo. He also has a changeup that he doesn’t throw very often.

    If I had to make a choice, I would probably pick Garcia. He’s only 25-years old and his ability to miss bats is through the roof. Howell and Hatcher are good too. The Dodgers are going to be relying very heavily on these three guys to build the bridge to Jansen. If these three relievers can stay healthy the Dodgers may finally have that bridge instead of a rickety rope walkway. Somebody have the contractors on speed dial just in case.
     
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    So that works out to roughly 2.5% of his contracted salary. I guess that's not going to factor much in a decision to DFA him.
     
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    Wow...this guy didn't even mention Chapman....WTF? Some kinda weird mofo...what's the world coming to when a Dodger fan can't spew behind what a hack puts out?
    This guy is fucked up,man...
     
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    THIS is the nutshell version. The question was asked why move Ethier when Joc and Puig are question marks? The answer of course is because Joc and Puig are YOUNGER, CHEAPER question marks. Both have higher upsides than Ethier and both combined cost less than Ethier, discounting of course what cash you'd have to send to the receiving team.
     
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    " We ain doin nothin, we need him "...the Zaidi kiss of death that we've seen in the past?
    Interesting there, CHISox wanted Puig and LAD rebuffed tried to push both Ethier and CC on them instead.



    Dodgers Notes: Puig, Ryu, Ethier, Kendrick

    By Steve Adams | February 4, 2016 at 10:17pm CST

    Andre Ethier has been the most oft-mentioned trade candidate for the Dodgers recently, in part, according to Bob Nightengale of USA Today (Twitter link), because Los Angeles is telling teams with interest in Yasiel Puig that Puig is not available at this time. Puig isn’t without his red flags, as he’s facing potential disciplinary action in connection with domestic violence allegations, is coming off a down season and has long come with questions about his clubhouse persona. Of course, even Puig’s “down” season saw him bat a solid .255/.322/.436 with 11 homers in 311 plate appearances, and he remains just 25 years of age with a considerable track record of elite production under his belt. Puig’s contract guarantees him $19.5MM over the next three seasons, although it also allows him to opt into arbitration once he is eligible next offseason, so it’s perhaps likely that he’ll instead go that route, as his earning capacity figures to be greater going down the arbitration path.

    A few more Dodgers-related notes…

    • Dodgers GM Farhan Zaidi was a guest on High Heat with Chris Russo on the MLB Network today (video link) and discussed a number of topics regarding the upcoming season. In regard to left-hander Hyun-jin Ryu, who underwent shoulder surgery and missed all of the 2015 season, Zaidi stopped short of declaring that he’d be ready for Opening Day but did say the Korean southpaw’s recovery is progressing as expected. Zaidi sounded hopeful that Ryu would indeed be available, but as the GM noted, it’s impossible to project a player’s return from that type of procedure before seeing him pitch in a game setting.
    • Zaidi deflected the notion that the team is looking to move Andre Ethier, stating that, “Right now, he’s a really important part of our team,” mentioning Ethier’s quite-productive numbers from the 2015 season (albeit in a platoon capacity). Zaidi acknowledged that the Dodgers have quite a bit of outfield depth and stressed that earlier in the offseason, the team was open to various scenarios involving a number of their players. “But right now, we have nothing going on,” Zaidi continued. “…We expect [Ethier] to be here in 2016.”
    • Howie Kendrick, whose two-year, $20MM contract with the Dodgers became official today, will see time not only at second base but also at third base in 2016, president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman told reporters, including Bill Shaikin of the L.A. Times, on today’s conference call. “He expressed a willingness to play different spots,” said Friedman of Kendrick. “That’s when things kind of accelerated.” Friedman said there could be as many as 1400 at-bats to go around between Kendrick, Chase Utley and Enrique Hernandez, with each expected to play multiple positions. As Shaikin notes, Kendrick’s willingness to play third base is of particular importance given Justin Turner’s offseason knee surgery and the fact that Turner has never played more than 126 games in a season before.
    • Interestingly, Shaikin adds his own bit about the recent trade talks between the Dodgers and White Sox, reporting that the Sox actually approached the Dodgers about Puig, but the Dodgers instead tried to sell the Sox on trades involving Ethier and Carl Crawford. At this point, there’s very little traction between the two sides, a source tells Shaikin.
     
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    So this is something funny that Dave Stewart said the other day on MLB Network radio and doesn't seem to have a made it on here yet. After the Segura trade, he was asked why they didn't go after Howie Kendrick (and as much as he wants us to believe it was the draft pick, it wasnt), he responded along the lines of, "Our finances are not where we would like them to be right now." You could tell the host's were surprised by this and since everyone is friends there, they didn't get him with any hard hitting follow up questions. This is off season is already looking bad for them, they got a great pitcher that they are likely overpaying and hoping he is the pitcher he was last year and not the one from the rest of his career and they destroyed their farm on two young players, one good, one not. The initial run by the D'Backs was exciting (I guess), but they have fallen hard after that Greinke signing. Their rotation is going to have some big question marks, as will their bullpen. I could see them falling flat on their faces and Greinke on the market in 12-18 months.
     
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    But " they burned us for the 23yr old Yoan Lopez "...who isn't even ranked among the Top 100 by anyone last I saw. Smh
     
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    This is exactly where I thought they would be and why I'm not mad at all about ZG going there. They will be competitive for 2 years, then ownership will try to blow it up. The ZG contract handcuffs the shit out of them and they will be fucked in the long-run.

    This will coincide when we have the MOST financial flexibility and when our prospects will just be getting ready to fuck shit up. That's why it was funny to hear all the reaction to ZG and the complaining. The team has been losing for 27 years and the reason is for thinking like that. The new is here and we are going to win the WS and continue to be there for many, many years.
     
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    That's hilarious.:giggle:
     
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    I'm pretty sure he's already projecting as a swing guy. I saw someone talk about how dumb of a move that was, recently.
     
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    This... and from Dave Stewart's comment it sounds like it is already handcuffing them. Too funny.
     
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    The hosts after Stewart got off the phone were funny. One of them has been hammering the Dodgers off season and lauding the D'Backs and you could tell he was completely thrown off by those comments. The other guy said something close to, "wow, I wonder if Greinke knew that, if he now wished he would have stayed with the Dodgers." They both stumbled and threw it to a commercial break. It actually pissed me off that they didn't go off on it, since MLB Network for the most part has loved the D'Backs moves and fucking hated the Dodgers, though this has a lot to do with former players paired with anti-saber hosts.
     
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    Yeah unless Brian Kenny is there to keep them honest, you're gonna hear some really dumb analysis.
     
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    he is seriously the only one on that network with any common sense
    if i see/hear harold reynolds, bill ripken or al leiter, i immediately change the channel
     
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    Greinke is nothing if not smart and calculating. He knows the financial implications of his deal and how it would affect the DBacks ability to field a winner longterm. He went for the money. In the end, the deal he signed with the DBacks is $50 million more than what we reportedly offered - it's hard to fault him too much.
     
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