MINOR LEAGUE/PROSPECTS Thread

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  1. Fall Winslow

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    Where did you see that about Diaz? Or are you just referencing what Law said? If it is Law, he is going off of older scouting reports.
     
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    Not just Law, but from most every report I've seen they're on Diaz early, before he even really gets started in the states.
    Pretty sure he's in everybody's Top 100 so far, gettin a lot of love
     
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    Ah, I see. Well he was the top Int'l non-pitching prospect on the market until about 3 days ago, so I am not surprised. Though, I think MLB.com has him pretty low, at least initially they did. Could be awesome if Joc figures out his stroke again. He does not have the speed of your avg CF'er and could be the potential long term option in LF once Diaz is ready.
     
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    MLB.com has Alvarez (1) and Diaz (3) in their top 30 international rankings from a few months ago. They haven't released their 2016 rankings. But Diaz is only the 12th best Dodger prospect via MLB.com.
     
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    I meant low on the teams page, and 12 is low considering some of the guys ahead of him. The as of 3 days ago comment relates to the Gourriel brothers defecting.
     
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    77th is a bit high at this point IMO, but I'm not complaining, the tools are there.
    That's the highest of all his rankings thus far I believe.
    If he lives up to it all perhaps he hits the show by '18.
    Tough to think that far ahead right now tho, I'm thinking Yuli Gourriel on the ASAP side of things
     
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    If they go the Gourriel route, then that either means that Turner moves to 2B, Turner is traded in advance of free agency or Gourriel moves to 2B and Kendrick does move to a LF platoon with Ethier, which would be a step down from an SVS platoon. I think Gourriel the elder is a long shot, but man if they get him, that would be great as he probably becomes the best hitter on the team.
     
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    The latter is why I think it happens, AF said they'd continue to be aggressive in looking for different ways to make the big club better, I can't think of a better option at the moment just in terms of not having to give up anything other than cash for a guy who could potentially be their best hitter.
    Not sure how they'd work it out, I imagine Yuli would get the nod at 2B over Howie and Turner tho.
    He's moving better than both of those guys, so much better that perhaps they'd just go ahead and deal Ethier and open up LF for Yuli to handle everyday?
    Would hurt SVS' value, but hell he's already fighting for scraps as it is anyway.
    Think eventually it'd mean the end of Turner starting at 3B tho, whether it's this year or the next ( if they even bring him back).
    Of Turner/Ethier/Kendrick, Ethier's the guy I'd deal, he's the only one that hasn't shown enough ability as of late in terms of catching up to 95 and that's ultimately what we're gonna see in October.
     
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    Yankees are buzzing over Yuli tho, so...
     
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    What to do with Turner is not a problem.
    He could probably play LF if we need him once he is all healed up.
    If Seager moves to 3B Turner could still be the super utility guy that plays somewhere everyday.
    If Turner is not playing 3B he should be the first guy off the bench at 2B, 1B, and LF.
     
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    I agree, if Turner is eventually healed up and 110% he can play some LF, wouldn't assume he could play there everyday, but he wouldn't have to either.
    They could move all these guys around, Howie signed up knowing he could be moved around, agreed to play some 3B.
    Of course Howie's played more LF than Turner has in his career, but both could flex out there from time to time and both are pros that wanna do what's best for the team, so I wouldn't worry too much about it, allow DR to do what he does best.
    But they'd still have to somewhat clear the way for it to happen, so again, yeah I'd just go ahead and deal Ethier and then juggle those guys @ LF/2B/3B.
    It'd be a good example for the young players coming up through the system - having vets set a team 1st type of example and the FO does covet versatility, so it'd connect with their beliefs as well.
    Could perhaps look somethin like this,


    Joc/Kike CF
    Corey SS
    Yuli 2B/3B
    Adrian 1B
    Turner 3B/2B/LF
    Puig RF
    YG C
    Howie LF/2B/3B


    Sick really, when you can roll out an order with Howie hitting 8th, would like to hit him higher because of all the damage he does with players on base, but if Puig and YG play up their potential he should still get plenty of opportunities with guys on and he does bring incredible presence to the 8 spot - getting those guys pitches to hit.
    But hell, it's an order that could be shuffled and reshuffled and still look pretty great, still have Kike/SVS/Utley on the bench, excellent.
    Turner sits every 4th day and Howie goes to 2B with Yuli moving over to 3B and SVS taking LF...
    or Corey takes 3B and Kike takes SS...
    and on and on and on, a ton of versatility and depth.
    But turn LF over to Howie at the start of the year, until Turner is healthy enough to rotate in for a couple weeks and settle in there for a spell.
    Then shuffle the deck again, not on a day to day basis with the vets, but a couple weeks here - a few weeks there.
    And still we know that guys will eventually deal with injuries/bouts with health, so it'd be fine.
     
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    I have no fricken' clue if any thing happens as far as bringing in another infielder, but if it did happen I would advocate selling high on Turner while we can. Yes, he's been a great find for us and couldn't ask for a better bargain but let's face it, he's never showed he can stay healthy and truth be known we don't know what to expect coming back from surgery. If we netted a solid everyday guy that allows us to shift players so as to have solid players around the infield without much platooning, and keeping someone like Hernandez in a super utility role, I'd be in favor of trading Turner while his value is up. Realistically, he's one injury away from being hard to move.

    JMO.
     
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    Baseball America ranks Dodgers farm system #1
    by Matthew Moreno | Dodger Blue — 2 hours ago

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    Praise has been constant for the Los Angeles Dodgers crop of prospects this offseason, with Baseball America the latest to recognize the organization’s work. In their 2016 rankings of farm systems, the publication rated the Dodgers No. 1 overall.

    ESPN’s Keith Law previously ranked the Dodgers as having the second-best farm system, trailing the Atlanta Braves. Rounding out Baseball America’s top-five farm systems are the Houston Astros, Braves, Boston Red Sox and Washington Nationals.

    After the Dodgers, the National League West is next represented at No. 6 by the Colorado Rockies. Baseball America rates the San Francisco Giants as having the 19th-best collection of Minor League talent.

    Under the Guggenheim group, specifically team president and CEO Stan Kasten and more recently, president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman, the Dodgers have opted against trading any of their elite prospects.

    Baseball America has recognized the organization for their improved collection of talent, ranking the Dodgers farm system No. 19 in 2013, 14th in 2014 and third last year. Los Angeles was rated 23rd in 2013 by the publication.

    Most of the heavy lifting has been done by Joc Pederson, Corey Seager and Julio Urias. Pederson assumed a full-time role with the Dodgers last season, which Seager is on track for this season. Urias’ development was slowed a bit in 2015 as he missed one month after undergoing cosmetic eye surgery.

    Seager was ranked the top prospect in Baseball Prospectus’ top 101 for 2016 and by MLB.com in January. He was also rated the No. 1 overall prospect by Law. Urias was named the top left-handed pitching prospect.

    While the aforementioned trio have headlined Dodgers Minor Leaguers, Cody Bellinger and Jose De Leon are among those who are quickly receiving more attention. Bellinger was rated the sixth-best Minor League first baseman, and De Leon the fifth-best right-handed prospect, both by MLB.com.

    Bellinger, De Leon and Urias are part of the non-roster invitees who will be in big league camp with the Dodgers during Spring Training.​
     
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    Fuck my OCD, ...ok, WHICH 2013 are we talking about? Or which Los Angeles??? Or which publication???
     
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    and 23rd what?
     
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    The dodger blog messed up in the report. The dodgers were rated #23 by baseball america in 2012 not 2013.
    Obvious blunder of the editor since the 13 season had already been talked about in the article as being the 19th ranked.
     
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