Cuban Culture in the MLB

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  1. darth550

    darth550 Baba Yaga

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    TBT; these guys have been living locked out of the Western World since the JFK years so it's no wonder they're acting like it's the wild wild west now, even without the power of money. Cuba is a man's world and it hasn't changed. Disrespect for women is ingrained in their culture and there's nothing anyone can really say or do about it in the short term until enough of them lose their shit or get incarcerated and they get it.

    Now, it occurs to me that a lot of shit has been going on with a lot of these guys we've signed or wanted to.

    Puig - Petulant child who runs from cops and gets into bar fights.
    Arruebarrena - Head case with no respect for authority - suspended again
    Chapman - Fires a gun in the garage with his wife in the house bc he's pissed.
    Olivera - Paid a couple dozen million to this (now) suspended wife beater
    Guerrero - I wasn't there but chances are he said or did some pretty fucked up shit for Olivo to go Tyson on him? B&M's otherwise

    And we have more already on the farm and others on the horizon.......

    I know not everybody is a head case but the ratio is alarmingly high, and these are guys we know of. What about the other teams we don't follow so closely? Let's face it/ The Nerds have been snakebit for the most part when it has come to their choices and judgments. Is it conceivable that they're now banking a HUGE part of this teams future on time bomb personalities? In this day and age they can't only send Cuban players to anger management without risking opening up a race card can of worms either.

    Does this trouble anyone else here?
     
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    The Dodgers have historically been one of the greatest teams in MLB to bring in international talent. It's a non-issue for me. Also, can't just put in on the new FO. Puig, Arrue, and Guerrero were all past FO grabs.

    Still plucked Ryu, Maeda, ect from the Asian market, and Urias is from Mexico. Maybe if they were solely just focusing on Cuba it'd be more of an issue.
     
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    darth550 Baba Yaga

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    It's a large percentage as Cuba seems to be the new DR for a lot of teams.
     
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    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

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    Yeah most of the Cuban players are A holes
     
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    no
     
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    no
     
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    I grew up in Union City NJ, which had the highest concentrated Cuban population outside of Miami and Havana. Initially, the Cubans that got out, were the ones that had the money to do so. I was a kid, but definitely not aware of a DV situation, for a variety of reasons. But as time went on, and more and more of the less affluent ( richer) Cubans settled, and I became more aware of course, the macho aspect did become quite obvious. Macho in a brutality aspect. Your post is very insightful and the subject won't correct itself amy time soon.
    They were hard working, and even saved the city from becoming a ghost town, but this was after I was married and gone. My parents stayed there, so I had some knowlege of what was going on. My generation Cubans have moved on to suburbia and into politics and are doing very well. Women's rights and education has corrected that DV problem within that culture, imo.
    But for the ones not so far removed from the island, as you wrote, it is an every day cultural part of their existence. Real and certainly not restricted to bb players. To not deal with it on a profesdional level as the Dodgers haven't is not helping the problem and is cowardice, too, imo.
    Maybe only time and DV education will alleviate it, idk.
     
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    In less words... cubans bad and FO bad.
     
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    i think it has more to do w latino players living in abject poverty suddenly having the brinks truck back up to their front door
    that and and the whole cult of sports celebrity that is heaped upon them
    add to that that latinos are entirely family oriented and can't stand being separated and you have an odd mixture of reality imo
     
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    I'm actually with darth on this one, there's reason for concern. It seems like Cuban players are failing at a rate way higher than what should be expected with the amount of baseball experience behind these guys. Without question there has to be culture shock when these players first leave Cuba, the only question is how and to what degree that is affecting them as people and ultimately baseball players.
     
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    I think the rags to riches thing is part of the equation, but you don't think there's more to it? It does seem that the amount of problems associated with Cuban players recently is more than what we've seen from other latin players.
     
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    well there is the communism factor as well
    i mean, the people living in Cuba don't dare even talk amongst themselves about castro for fear of disappearing from the face of the earth
    but if you are saying that Cubans might be wired differently than the rest of us i won't disagree
    i think you can say that about most latino communities outside of the US
    ime a latin male that establishes himself as an earner basically rules the world
    not talking rich but just an earner
    no one tells anyone what to do short of murder and even then...
     
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    Women be crazy.
    Specially poor uneducated women from the redneck equivalent places in latin america.
    Throw in the fact they from islands.
    Caribs to boot.
    These women are fierce.
    As in ferocious shetigers.
    Like colombianas.

    Now you alwahs have women who go nuts during hormonal times.
    Mix in drugs alcohol late nights fast easy money from husband or brother in the bigs... Get on board the crazy train.

    What do you do when your woman throws a fit and takes to a rocky dirt floor scraping herself up on purpose when she feels like a failure after realizing a horrible mistake?
    Do you leave her there as she screams and kicks you to leave her alone?
    When she starts grinding her teeth so hard that you gotta forcibly open her mouth for her to stop?
    When she slams a bottle of pills amd you gotta stick your finger in her mouth to remove them and make her puke the rest?
    Have u ever had to slap a hysterical woman doing something seriously dangerous to herself?

    Now when the cops come what do you do?
    Do you tell the cops that your woman or your sister or your mom is having a mental issue or tried to kill herself or any other shame inducing thing like that?
    Or do you man up and protect your womans honor and risk a possible DV rap by keeping family business in the family?

    Now some of you may say thay this does not happen with your women.
    Fine... But it does in ours and that and many other reasons is why we keep things in the family.
    Because the system sucks and you dont want your women involved in it.
    Because you dont want the children to know the bad stuff in their past.
    Because small towns have large old style social networks that have even friends shame another woman for something deemed dishonorable.

    Sure they in america know... But those brain pathways dont change overnight. More likely they become information superhighways once they come to rome and have access to all our excess.
     
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    This is devastating to admit, but yes.

    She was slapping me. I slapped her back to jolt her to her senses. Cause if she had slapped me one more time I'd have knocked her ass out. That woman is now my wife of 21 years. Judge me if you will, I don't care.
     
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    Ill judgr only for the part that that you would have knocker her ass out if she hit u one more time.
    You slap a girl to snap back to her sense if she is a threat to herself or a legit threat to your life or limb.
    But if its just her inflicting some pain on you then you gotta take it like a man.
    But good on you guys for being married all this time.
     
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    She had a meat fork (think grill) in her hand.
     
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    Ok you get a pass.
     
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    Only you could steak his manhood on a grillfight and lose!
    HA!
     
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    Wrong thread
     
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    Is that what you came away with...that I feel all Cubans are bad? Great perception.
    Lol. "Less words"...coming from you, the biggest psychobabbler on the internet.
     
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