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  1. IBleedBlue15

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    The Rockies never win. CarGo has one or two more years left on his deal. How can you say they can't trade him when they unloaded Tulo last year?
     
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    How can you say the ROX never win when they were in the WS in 2007?
    Also won 90+ 2 or 3 years after that.
    The ROX sneak up and put together a year every now and then, TBH they're about due, they definitely have talent.
    There's 1yr left on CarGo's deal, but they reportedly want a lot for him.
    Like @ColoradoKidWitGame said they could have a really good team next year if they keep CarGo and their farm isn't really desperate for anything right now.
    They traded for Jake McGee because they plan on winning.
     
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    I didn't say that they can't, I said they shouldn't. There's a difference. The Tulo trade has allowed them the ability to sit tight and potentially make one more run with CarGo. The Rockies got a good front of the rotation arm for a guy that the Jays thought was still the best SS in baseball. Tulo had worn out his welcome here, whether the fans believed it or not, plus the dude was never healthy. They got offered a solid deal and took it. The second part of the deal blew up in their faces though, when a rumored third party decided not to piggyback on first trade and take Reyes off their hands. They have a solid young pitching group coming up and a good positional core already in place. Just because they haven't won for a couple years doesn't mean they shouldn't try to win next year.
     
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    So they've had 2 good years in their existence? I'm just now seeing it, Winslow. Might as well get some quality for CarGo before he bolts after next year.
     
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    Yeah I used the wrong words in my original post. Still, I'm not too optimistic with the Rockies. Might as well get a good deal for CarGo as well before his contract expires. It's a moot point though until we actually hear something about it.
     
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    2 good years and a lot of talented teams beforehand that lacked the pitching to put it all together, but as @ColoradoKidWitGame said they currently have quality pitching on the way and the past doesn't preclude them from trying in the near future.
    They want more than just some quality for CarGo, they wanna raid the top of your farm for 1 and a half years of control of CarGo AKA they really have no plans to move him.
    Their price for CarGo matches up with their move for Jake McGee.
    It's definitely moot until we get some reports that CarGo is being discussed tho, I mean we may as well be talking about McCutchen too, the ROX have a better record than PIT and McCutchen's final year of his deal is next year as well.
    We can run down all the would be non-Bruce options, but the Dodgers are interested in Bruce.
     
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    Kershaw flying to LA to be examined by team doctors for his back. Insert the GIF from this weeks GOT and Tommin. That's me right now if I my house wasn't a ranch.
     
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    If they get something big for him, then yeah I would definitely say they should consider it. Like if they were offered a De Leon, Moncada, Gallo, Baez/Schwarber then they should consider it, but I just don't see that happening. He's having a great year after finishing 2015 as one of the hottest players in the game. He's not going to come cheap and the team probably wants to show Arenado that they're trying to put a winner together as he is already starting to get pissed. Another reason they may only look for the big deal is that even a year after the Tulo trade and even though it looks like the Rockies were the clear winners of the deal, fans are still pissed about it and think they could have done better or most still prefer to have kept him. I just don't see them moving him unless it is for a package where you go, "yeah, that's a steal."
     
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    Oh yeah Lol Arenado went off on the team, forgot about that
     
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    totally agree
    especially when he tweaked his (apparently still gimpy) paw the other day
    too much to give away to get him imo


    i was surprised when they did that
    but i guess they knew what they had in story to replace him
    do they have someone ready to fill cargo's shoes if the deal him?
    i'm guessing yes, but i don't know for sure
    @ColoradoKidWitGame?
     
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    They have Dahl, the 5-Tool prospect, but he needs more time. He's had two years cut way short due to multiple freak accidents. He's doing well in AA right now, but needs time in AAA before he comes up. They have another OF prospect in AA that looks to be pretty good, but he's a high avg/OBP/no power guy. I just don't see them getting the deal they'd want to move him. They need more immediate ready players and I have a hard time seeing someone do it unless they're desperate.
    I'm gonna go on a limb and say they really didn't know what they had in Story. He's been a peak/valley prospect since he was signed. First he was the second coming of Tulo, then it was Ian Stewart and then a mix of in betweens. SS was Reyes' to lose, then he got into trouble and Story had a hell of a Spring that has kept going.
    Basically, if they trade Cargo, they're likely punting this season, next season and blowing any chance at resigning Arenado.
     
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    Marquez looks promising, the kid they got in the Dickerson trade, possibly one of the top 3 arms on their farm.
    He has the change that they love, so he fits right in.
    Perhaps Marquez replaces Cotton in the Future's Game if LAD has to call him up
     
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    Yeah, they've really been touting him up as a steal. I was more talking about the guys they have for positional players though as they don't have a ton of guys on the cusp of being ready. They had some really bad drafts before the last couple of years.
    Haha, they just started their game tonight against the Jays, thinking of rolling over there since I have nothing to do tomorrow.
     
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    I'm gonna kill myself if Kershaw and or Joc are hurt
     
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    Step down from the ledge Tommen.
     
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    Clayton Kershaw is hurt and things could get ugly for the Dodgers
    by Mike Oz | Big League Stew — 5 hours ago

    There hasn’t been a pitcher in baseball this season more valuable to his team than Clayton Kershaw is to the Los Angeles Dodgers. And we may see soon just how much better he’s made the mostly unspectacular Dodgers this season.

    The club announced Tuesday that Kershaw would be leaving its current road trip in Milwaukee and traveling back to the Los Angeles to see the team’s back specialist.

    This, as you might imagine for a Dodgers team that’s trying to make the best of a depleted rotation, is not good news. Here’s what skipper Dave Roberts relayed to the press, via Andy McCullough of the L.A. Times:

    Andy McCullough ✓ @McCulloughTimes
    Dave Roberts said the team is "hopeful" Kershaw can make
    his next start. But his back condition has not improved.
    2:39 PM - 28 Jun 2016

    Andy McCullough ✓ @McCulloughTimes
    Kershaw will be examined by Dr. Robert Watkins, the team's
    back specialist.
    2:45 PM - 28 Jun 2016

    Kershaw’s back as been hurting for a couple weeks now, but according to the L.A. Times, it hurt worse after Sunday’s start against the Pittsburgh Pirates, which also happened to be his first loss and his worst outing of the season.

    It’s promising that Kershaw hopes to start Sunday, when the Colorado Rockies visit Chavez Ravine, but whether he makes it there is another matter entirely. His back could just need some time to work out — that’s what the Washington Nationals are hoping for Stephen Strasburg, who recently went on the 15-day DL because of his back. But we also know that the back is one of the toughest injuries to deal with.

    Rather than play armchair doctor, let’s instead assess just what Kershaw has meant to the Dodgers this season. The Dodgers are 42-36 and seven games back in the NL West, and that’s with Kershaw pitching out of his mind.

    He’s having one of those seasons where he might just win the MVP if he keeps up his pace. That pace? He’s 11-2 with a 1.79 ERA and an absurd 145-to-9 strikeout-to-walk ratio. He’s easily been the most valuable player in the game this season, according to Fangraphs. His 5.5 Wins Above Replacement is almost an entire win higher than Mike Trout at 4.6.

    Put this in the context of the Dodgers rotation and it’s even more important. The Dodgers’ team ERA is 3.67, sixth best in MLB. Take away Kershaw? It’s 4.35, 14th in the league.

    That’s actually not as bad as you might think, considering how rough the starting pitching situation has been. The Dodgers are still without two starters whose injuries carried over from last season in Hyun-jin Ryu (shoulder) and Brandon McCarthy (Tommy John surgery). Both are rehabbing and could be back soon, but it’s hard to count on shoulders and elbows.

    Beyond that, Brett Anderson is out for the season. Scott Kazmir and his 4.67 ERA have been meh. Alex Wood isn’t a ton better with his 3.99 ERA. And they’ve used a hodge-podge of Ross Stripling, Mike Bolsinger and Nick Tepesch for 15 starts. Kenta Maeda seems to the only other good Dodgers starter. He rebounded from a tough May and got his ERA back down to 2.91.

    If Kershaw needs to miss time, the training wheels may need to come off 19-year-old Julio Urias. In his first six starts, he’s shown he can strike people out, but he’s hardly a polished product. He has a 4.33 ERA and hasn’t reached the seventh inning yet.

    What all this means is, if you’re a Dodgers fan, player or front-office member, you better cross your fingers and your toes that Kershaw’s back is all right. Otherwise, this season might get ugly.
     
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    The Dodgers have claimed infielder Cole Figueroa off waivers from the Pirates, Los Angeles announced. He has been optioned to Triple-A. Figueroa, who’ll turn 29 on Thursday, has appeared at second, third, and short at the major league level. He hasn’t hit much in limited action at the major league level, but has produced at a .288/.356/.376 clip in nearly 2,000 turns at the plate at Triple-A.
     
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    The Dodgers’ rash of injuries in the rotation has the team re-thinking the looming shutdown of top prospect Julio Urias, tweets Andy McCullough of the Los Angeles Times. The team may rely on Urias in the rotation for as long as it can despite the fact that his innings are a concern coming off a season in which the 19-year-old threw just 80 1/3 total innings at the minor league level. Including tonight’s six-inning start, Urias has already thrown 77 innings this season between the Majors and minors.
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