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  1. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    Rays expected to keep Archer, Moore and others
    by Matthew Moreno | Dodger Blue — 2 hours ago

    As the Aug. 1 non-waiver trade deadline draws near, there’s no denying the clubs searching for starting pitching outnumbers those with pitchers on the block. That’s particularly true in terms of aces who may be available.

    The Chicago White Sox reportedly are considering moving Chris Sale but at this stage don’t appear completely set on doing so. Chicago also has Jose Quintana who is believed to be drawing interest. The Tampa Bay Rays are another team rich with starting pitchers, namely Chris Archer and Matt Moore.

    Archer has predominantly been linked to the Los Angeles Dodgers, and he was sure to impress at Dodger Stadium on Tuesday, throwing seven strong innings in a tough-luck loss.

    On top of being young and talented pitchers, Archer and Moore are under team control for multiple seasons, further increasing their trade value.

    However, according to ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick, clubs are getting the sense Tampa Bay may not yet move the likes of Archer, Moore, or Jake Odorizzi:

    "Several teams that have had conversations with the Rays have concluded they’re perfectly willing — and leaning toward — hanging on to their big assets and waiting to act during the winter, when they can engage with 29 MLB teams rather than a handful making playoff pushes."

    Archer’s contract includes club options for 2020 and 2021, while Moore has options on his deal from 2017-19. Even if the Rays elect to stand pat at the deadline, they conceivably could land quite the haul for any of their young pitchers come the offseason.

    The same holds true for the White Sox and Sale, who is under team control through the 2019 season. In contrast to last winter when several aces hit free agency, this year’s crop of soon-to-be available starters pales in comparison.
     
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    why does this feel so Laker?
     
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    Inept FO'S in common?
     
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    I don't follow the Lakers, or any other basketball team, so I don't know what this reference means...but I do know it seems like every rumored player we have been attached to has simply vanished in the haze, as the Beatles sang.
    I sure hope we do something, but I guess wishing for a huge deal like a Chris Sale is up in smoke.
    Keeping in mind of course, that making a deal for deal's sake is usually counter productive...but this one ER in two games when the Giants are at their low point screams " do something "!
     
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    You actually know what the reference means
     
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    Yup, feeling more and more like my prediction of getting a 4th OF and simply solid reliever will hold true
     
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    Jeff Passan: Sources: Royals trying to package Ian Kennedy in a potential Wade Davis deal. Dodgers a strong match. Covet Davis and can take on Kennedy $.


    This would be ideal for LA. They can flex money over anyone else
     
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    I hadn't noticed that Wade Davis has declined a bit though. His K and BB rates have gone in bad directions, stuff has gotten a bit worse.

    But still good results and I trust our scouts and analytics team to do a good job of analyzing if he's still an elite reliever
     
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    Their is a case to be made that Davis isn't elite anymore, K's down the last couple of years, walks and hits up considerably this year. Add to that a starter that is just bad, unless the cost is minimal in the way of young talent for taking Kennedy's money, I don't see it.

    Here are the numbers to backup what I said about Davis:

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/daviswa01.shtml

    EDIT: I see you noticed this as well.
     
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    Absolutely ideal, but the same can kinda be said for the Rangers, Red Sox, Astros, and maybe the Nats as trade partners as well.
    The 4 clubs with the most power in terms of the combination of farm and financial backing.
    edit: Or 5 I should say, counting LAD as #1
     
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    I duno......as much as I would like to see a trade, im not sure Davis is worth Kennedy's contact. Kennedy signed a FA contract this year through 2020. He is getting paid 13M next year and 16M in 18-20. That is a lot of cash to be tossin out just for a bullie guy that we realistically don't need.....
     
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    Kennedy is being paid WAY too much to take on IMO. It'll indeed be interesting to see what they come up with this deadline though.
     
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    Yeah Davis has still shown enough, time for him to finally land.
    And like him or not, Kennedy is even a solid power arm to add to the back of the rotation, they can haggle over how much of his money they'll take on, surely LAD wouldn't take it all on the sticklers for value that they are.
    All in all, though, more depth and flexibility moving forward, kinda the reason why they're kicking ass w/o Kershaw.
    Kennedy has 117Ks to 39 walks and is still gunning it up to 96MPH, could eventually make for a decent bullpen arm himself if it was ever needed.
    Should go ahead and get that Paulo Orlando cat who's playing RF for them too and slashing .348/.377/.439 VS. LHP and .324/.346/.408 overall.
    They could flip SVS into CF against LHP and go Howie/SVS/Orlando on those days and get a boost.
     
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    If only Kennedy were Cuban...then the $ wouldn't matter in the least.
     
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    Ok, it might not be so bad. Im just worried about blockin Urias (if he is still here) and Deleon. If that trade is made then going into next year our rotation is Kershaw/McCarthy/Ryu/Maeda/Kennedy. That leaves Kazmir, Anderson, Norris, Wood, Bolsinger, Urias, and Deleon. Kaz has an opt out at the end of this year and given the week SP market, I would not be surprised if he opts out to get a better deal. So for argument sake lets say Kaz opts out. No way Anderson is resigned, so he is gone. Norris, Wood, and Bolsinger are cheap so I bet all 3 are resigned. I get a bad feeling about Ryu, so his spot is available. I also think Bolsinger is resigned for depth and stashed in AAA. So next year provided Kershaw is healthy, our rotation is Kershaw/McCarthy/Wood/Maeda/Kennedy with Urias/Deleon/Norris waiting in the wings. Still a crowded staff.........all that to say I don't think I want a mediocre Kennedy blocking Urias-Deleon-Norris
     
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    Don't know whether that is declarative or interoggative...I know in the song is about independence...we do need "help", in my opinion. Not just anybody.
     
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    If this is the trade that is to come, it is in the dictionary next to "meh".
    Ian Kennedy? We used to rake this guy...
    Idk for sure, but isn't his rep right up there with the Chapman douchebaggery ? Seems like I remember something on that.
     
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    Taking LAD's protection over their farm into consideration, the money really doesn't matter in comparison to their farm focus.
    They're more inclined to overspend in money than they are in the farm they've worked hard to build.
    We're talking about a team that not only paid a bunch of guys to play elsewhere last year ( Haren, Dee, etc), but also a team that was willing to foot the bill for Josh Hamilton's contract as a 3rd team to get the prospects they covet.

    And so with that said, you don't have to worry about anybody being blocked, they'll pay 60-80% of a guy's contract to open up space for the prospects that they've raised when they need to.
    I assure you that an Ian Kennedy will not block a Julio Urias.
    You're worrying too much here.
    And Wade Davis gives them a bonafide closer for when Kenley leaves.
     
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    We put it on ourselves, just like how Laker fans do.
     
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    Right there......why does everyone think Kenley is leaving. Keep Kenley and then you don't have to trade for Davis and Kennedy. Save the prosepcts for a CLUTCH BAT. Use the prospects to get the bat we need, don't take on Kennedy's iodic contract, extend Kanley......problem solved!!!
     
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