FEDIT POLITICS Thread

I thought you were an atheist?
Maybe im confused because you arent so sure if you are atheist or agnostic.
It relates only as far as Capn relating the fact that i use 'nonsense' which he generally means faith beliefs to any other point i make.

Obviously anyone can legally start a business.
Its also obvious that what i meant by 'start' and 'business' is far more involved than the technicality of filing paperwork and paying fees.
Many entities first start doing business in the shade and slowly bring their business into the light when they are ready to.
This is done in a bunch of different ways.
From stealing patents, tech, ideas to less than legal startup funding to not reporting early earnings to not having all permits and insurances and safety equipment from the get go.
For many types of businesses you first need to be able to get to a certain threshold legally speaking before you can operate.
Many dont have the money to do all of that or wish to invest what they have in something which has no guarantee of success.
So they wing it like setting up a pop up shop out of your van selling shirts or bacon hot dogs after a concert or sporting event.
Entrepreneurs that dont have the ability to reach the handle to open the door have to jam their foot in the doorway someway or another.
Like how Bill Gates stole from IBM.
Like how Steve Jobs stole from Xerox.
Like how DSP stole users from PSD.

 

many people have integrity
which i dont mean in a moral way which is the modern definition but in a mathematical way which is the original definition
as in they are one person/mind and their views are not fractured depending on the situation
so if you are one way in your personal life then you will also be that way in your business life
that is integrity, which is another way of saying a whole/undivided/indivisible and from where the modern definition of morally upright is based on
i only give the explanation because im sure someone will say im being preachy/moralistic by using the term integrity

 

I think I'm an athiest too, I'm just not sure.

I dont think there is a God, so I choose to not have faith in, and adhere to beliefs strictly because they're said to come from said God.
But I can't say I'm sure there isn't a God, either because that would take faith too. So that doesn't make me a very good athiest.

I do believe that things like the existence of God or not are knowable, so that doesn't make me a very good agnostic either.

Oh, and by the way, I find most athiests to be more preachey and sanctimonious than fundamentalist religious types. It like they're so wrapped up in their perceived logical and empirical superiority that they can't see that their position is as equally faith based as any religious belief. I get tired of people with faith based beliefs calling other people's beliefs nonsense and fairy tales

 

totally agree
but born again christians aren't far behind
like a reformed addict, their self-righteousness and holier than thou bullshit is intolerable

 

Yeah but more power to them. They usually were people who fucked up bad and turned their life around.
I tell my uncle whose an insufferable prick that becoming such an annoying person now that hes a recovering alcoholic is his pennance for being a bad drunk most of his life. His frontal lobe is hardened up and so he doesnt get why people dont like him. He says all he is trying to do is help them and be their friend buy nobody wants to be his friend because they are bad.
I tell him its not because they are bad. Its because they are bad and so are you and everyonr else yet you believe you are good now after all the fucked up shit youve done.
Dobt worry bout being good. Nobody is good. Just be decent and dont be such a douche all the time. Thats good enough.
If you wanna preach do it by example. Thats the only way thats ever worked. Everything else is just patting your own back.
But like i said... Some people are cursed to be that holier than though guy that will turn people off due to their past misdeeds in some form of karmic way.
I do believe in reincarnation btw... It just happens within one biological life.
Im not the same dude i was in my 20s.
But i may be the same dude i was in my teens

 

Im not taking it personally, i dont ever think you are being a dick about this type of stuff. Just that you are hardwired into your belief system and wont/cant see the point i am making because of said hardwiring. You take me to mean 'its a rigged game and everyone cheats' because thats how you view my outlook. Which is nihilistic. My views are the complete opposite of nihilistic and IMO that is plain as day. Which makes it even more strange to me how you continue to assess my views as nihilist.
The point i was making was similar to Craigs. That because of how the rules are set up it is very difficult to be in compliance by most new businesses. That a lot of the big name companies have cheated to get a start, a headstart, a foothold, etc...
I was being very general and you came back with precise examples where they didnt cheat. But of course that isnt the whole story and they did cheat at many other points in the process.

It would be nihilist to say that everybody cheats, the game is rigged, its all evil.
It would not be to say everybody cheats, its a known known, thats how the game is played, its all good just cheat the right way and get a good lawyer and accountant to work it out after the fact.

BTW, the bible says something similar. Since you love those examples
Everyone falls short of God (everyone cheats).
But by grace you are forgiven (at some point you feel remorse and you clean it up)
Thanks to the fact that Jesus is your homeboy (the defense attorney who calls witness)
But be careful because Satan is there to entrap you at every turn (the prosecution)
So be good and god bless (live a joyful life so your spirit will be a good witness to the judge)

 

unfortunately so are the participants

 

This is what you get when you have a society that values the Kardashians, fat beauty pageant kids and trigger warnings.

We get a "choice" between orange muppet Hitler and Dr. Evil pantsuit lizard queen.

 

or you can vote for me
and by me i mean you
and by you i mean US

 

what does that even mean?

 

easy peasy
most people tend to say that you should vote for your issues
they will talk shit about a certain demographic for not voting for their own best interests
like former immigrants or hispanics shouldnt vote for trump for example because it is against their personal interests
that is wrong
you should vote for me
and by me i mean not you
because voting for me is voting for you
i see i lost you again
if everyone votes for their own interests then we will vote for a bunch of shitty policies and vote in pandering politicians
if everyone voted for the interests of me their fellow citizen and not for themselves then the country would be a better place
by me of course i mean US as in what is best for everyone IE the country
then panderers would not be able to get deep into your heart of hearts with their bullshit
you would be immune to it because they cant go after your precious
instead to curry your favor they have to be about what is best for everyone
and while that is much less exciting when it comes to politicking and debates and all the bullshit called politics... it is what makes for sound government
i hope you guys understand this better now
so you can vote for me
and not you
because when you vote for me
you vote for you
because you are just another part of me

 

still pretty cryptic
if you're talking about propositions/statutes/amendments et al it's one thing
but the candidates themselves -- even the local ones -- are disingenuous and all have hidden agendas
obama is a prime example of not delivering what he preached/promised
yes we can... only we won't
but he's far from alone
in fact it's more the rule than the exception