MLB NEWS/RUMORS Thread

I keep hoping, but him being in shape isn’t going to magically make him be a good defender when he’s been an awful one his entire career, and this front office values defense tremendously

 

I think you'd be building off a mirage.

We've seen this version of good Joc a few times. We also know how quickly he reverts to shitty Joc.

 

Pray to the baseball God's ray:

 

That's only if you think he hasn't had a solid career in the bigs thus far and/or if you think he's done growing as a player
Kid's got 62 HRs in 3 years and a .780 career OPS, which is 40-45pts above average..considering he's been doing that in CF, it plays

 

Shit, Joc's played in 27 career post season games thus far..his OPS over those 27 games/74 plate appearances is .880 and he's slugged .524
He definitely still has some sprucing up to do with his fat ass, but this is a solid player that needs ABs..not some old has been like Matt " Apollo Creed " Kemp messin in his corner

 

Under the category of Dodger fans fondest wishes:

Jerry Crasnick‏ ✓@jcrasnick
If the #Brewers have a trade brewing, as I’m hearing, it’s not with the #SFGiants.
They’ve also been talking to the #Whitesox, among other clubs.
2:36 PM - 21 Jan 2018​

 

So you don't want to trade him or you think he is not #3???

 

Do not trade. He's probably a year and a half away from the bigs. Solid chance that he could be 20yrs old at debut..not a lot of backstops pull that off in general, let alone for WS contending teams, but he's that good. He's the 1, not the 2. Trade the 2. Keep the stud QB.

 

Well if he is needed to get "that" piece to get this team over the top, then it might be wise to trade him, if not for Yelich, maybe Archer. Also wasn't Will Smith the talk of the town a few months ago? I know he did good in the AFL. I would be curious to know the drop off between Ruiz and Smith?

 

The pieces that are needed for this team to get over the top are already on the team. They were a game away from winning the WS with damn near all of their best players playing like shit. Do not trade stud QB Ruiz because vet MFs keep choking.

Willie Smith being the talk of AFL is perfect, trade his ass instead.

 

It is fairly obvious that a few on here missed a point in my write up. If nobody is giving you anything of value now(and the bar I set was quite low to begin with), then let him start the spring and season in LF to try to see if someone, somewhere will take him off our hands for more than the couple mil will do for us right now. I get that there are likely better players on the roster, but they have options and aren't saddling the club with $22M a year over the next two seasons. See what he can do to start the season(if another opportunity doesn't present itself first) and move him if he gains any sort of value in that time. Giving him up to only recoup the minimum makes no sense and his shitty defense aside, it is not going to cause this team to suddenly go from a 94 projected win team to an 84 win team if he is relied on the first month or so.

I'm not here championing Kemp as our savior, I want him gone as well. I just want to see the team get out from as much of that contract as they can before settling for peanuts in a deal.

 

Trading a potential superstar catcher seems like one of those things you should just never do, unless you are getting someone that is a superstar in return and Yelich is not that. I keep going back to that WS and having Yelich in LF over Pederson does not suddenly make us a WS winner. Our LF'er is WS MVP if we win game 7. We needed just one better start out of Darvish or Kershaw, or Jansen to not hang a fucking 0-2 slider, or our star players to suddenly not go ice cold in the World Series. Yelich is a nice player on a good contract, but not something this team desperately needs.

 

Why Uncle Phil had to throw him out. I mean I don't really mind going for Yelich because he at least represents a long term answer, but his potential acquisition has to be weighed against just waiting on Harper because of the spec cost. I just want the right specs going to Miami. Miami would maybe try ( and fail) to send Realmuto LAD's way to entice them to part with Keibert, but fuck that noise. They already sent Realmuto to LAD a couple years ago..Sam Barnes. They fucked up. Well, not them, since it's a new FO, but same difference.

Personally, I was pro-Stanton, but I was thinking more so about domination, not just taking this team over the top. Thinking more about LAD winning 3 or more championships, maybe in a row, and then still winning after Turner and some others decline. That's was the intrigue of adding a young, in his prime superstar for me, at least..the intrigue for me with Harper as well. And then of course Stanton was holding the veto power, as close as he could be to being a free agent, with a monster contract in tow, so the spec cost wasn't going to be exorbitant.

 

Ok I can agree with not trading for Yelich, but I do not have faith in the starting rotation as it stands. Too many things can go wrong. I also don't want Darvish back. Bringing him back means he needs to 1)figure out his pitch tipping or whatever the issue was, and 2)have VERY thick skin. No mental midgits. We all know the minute he has one bad game every fan in Dodger Stadium will boo the crap out of him, deserved or not. I would be concerned with this last point. IMO I would rather give up the specs, MGT has a ton of them and they all can't make the team, and get someone like Archer.

 

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The other day I joked on their ability to completely ditch this dreaded Kemp/Ethier/Puig 3 headed OF demon, but that's all it really was..at least in 2 of those guys' cases. If it were just Kemp that they had on the block I'd be less confident in their ability to move him, but LAD does have sweeteners. The A's could also use Yasmani and of course LAD is looking to move him as well. Ditch all of Yasmani's salary + enough of Kemp's to carve out the necessary space to keep Darvish around..that's the endgame, at least for me. Keeping Kemp into the season kills that and more.

Although, since Darvish is a marked man now, some would be happy with Kemp shutting Darvish out. Sucks to say that Darvish still needs development, but that's on the Rangers and their pitiful watch. Being that LAD develops very well, I still believe Darvish can be salvaged, he damn well has the raw tools at his disposal and LAD is developing lost causes like hotcakes. The Japanese culture so big on honor..it wouldn't shock me if he wanted back and another go at repairing his rep and LAD definitely showed him that they had his back after the whole Gurriel episode. Darvish was on his way to legendary status until that WS fuckery. Not just on the mound before the WS either, but that ridiculous bases loaded AB he had against the Cubs as well. Dude was competing hard as hell in Wrigley, nobody can convince me otherwise. Pumping his fist and tossing the bat down after Ball 4 to Cubbie fans' dismay..it was fun to watch. I'll take him back. If we're shooting all chokers out of a cannon, I'm starting with the highest paid choker. Damn right.