DODGERS NEWS/RUMORS thread

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  1. ColoradoKidWitGame

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    Unless he has some miraculous course change in his career, Seager is destined for a corner, imo. Back injuries and now a hip surgery is not a great outlook for ones athleticism up the middle. I am not saying he moves tomorrow, but looking 3-4 years down the line and I believe it will be a much more realistic situation. I don't think if they move him off of SS that they would move him to 2B either, just cause of the hip and such. I would really like for him to prove me wrong and I will be rooting for him to do so, but his track record is not helping his outlook. I could definitely see Lux as a 2B, especially if his arm issues continue, but there are some really positive reports about him that could give the team reason to use him at SS. Either way, we can talk ourselves into Arenado all we want, but the truth is, he will likely be seeking a bigger contract than Machado/Harper get and for 10 years to boot. He will be 3 years older, but the difference for him is he is known to be a gamer and is one of the greatest defensive 3B to play the game.... I could see our FO sticking to a 5 year offer for him, so yeah, he is not coming to LA.
     
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    Same. While i've said they don't need to do anything to win the division and probably be regarded as the best (or 2nd at worst) team in the NL, their was no reason to move off so much depth if staying under the tax threshold was always the main goal and signing Joe Kelly was gonna be the highlight of the off-season. All they've done to this point is hinder their ability to deal with injuries.
     
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    It would make absolutely no sense unless they just fucking loved Downs and Gray... which also isn't the most far-fetched thing in the world either. If they really are done and there was no contingency plan, this FO would rightfully be setting themselves up for a year of media and fan backlash.
     
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  4. irish

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    yup
    and the reds salary dump only made sense if it had been a precursor for something bigger/better
    yeah maybe kemp/puig/wood weren't the best clubhouse presences
    but the trade essentially eliminated any rh threat sans turner
    hoping friedman has something else working in the wings but it's hard to envision or be optimistic
     
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    I can't go on! The 2 time defending NL Champs won't ever ever be good again! The FO has sold us a bunch of goods, Magic has turned to the darkside!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead::ranting::D:D:D:DI've said it before that yeah the payroll won't be the 200 million dollar monster anymore but I don't believe that it will be Tamp Bay Dodgers with a bunch or pre-arb players at every position. If y'all are frustrated I get it but have a little faith!!!!! It's January 14th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I will hold out hope for Harper until it's over. I know it's just denial, but so be it. Everything our FO has done has pointed in the direction of signing him. Getting under the tax threshold last year. Ignoring Mike Stanton completely. Trading away OF depth this offseason (it's rumored we were willing to also trade Verdugo). I don't know how much OF depth they really think we have... lots of bodies but maybe one star in the group (unless Bellinger moves to 1B).

    On Friday Twitter said Harper to the Phillies was a done deal, and would be finalized on Saturday. On Saturday Phillies were open to Harper OR Machado. Now Harper to the Phillies is a done deal again. Sure sure sure. Sounds like a lot of people just trying to get clicks at this point.
     
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    ANYTIME you have Borasss around it's utter chaos. He manipulates everyone and everything is his orbit. He'll throw red herrings all over damn place for effect.
     
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    no excuse for this team not to sign harper
    none whatsoever
    why do teams like the white sox, phillies, nationals et al suddenly have deeper pockets than us? (spoiler: they don't)
    and offering 5 years when everyone else is offering 10 is bullshit -- might as well not even waste the time
    harper wants to come here, the fo has been clearing payroll, what's the fucken problem?
    like vrp said, they want us fans to dole out 5% of our hard earned annual income but are (themselves) unwilling to part with a minuscule fraction of their net worth to improve the team
    nah man, fuck this shit
     
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    Biggest issue for me is we subtracted without adding. Makes zero sense if something other than Joe Kelly and Russell Martin doesn't happen.
     
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    A case could be made for getting rid of any of the three.

    In my opinion, dumping Wood was addition by subtraction.
    Despite the great first half last year, Kemp's fade down the stretch (which has now established an annual pattern for him) made him very expendable.
    And Puig... well, you could say his inability to pull himself out of the platoon limitation cost him.

    But I'm in agreement. Dumping all three together without a greater plan for that money/ those roster spots is just absurd. They better be seriously working on something (not just considering).
     
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    just hypothesizing...
    but i wonder if friedman's arrogance ("we don't need a gm, i got this") is part of the problem
     
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    It could also be word from Guggs that's stopping us from landing a big fish like Harper.

    Or maybe Harper will be a dodger tomorrow since none of us really know anything.
     
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    IMO we have the best front office in baseball, it’s 100% the ownership
     
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    The thing that is making many of us frustrated is they are realistically running out of options. They could still pull a trade out their ass that nobody saw coming or some surprise Harper signing, but if they do miss on him, there is not really anyone out there that then makes this a good offseason. I think they realistically could have had the big offseason this year and signed a 2B and C from the solid stock, plus still pursued Harper with 2020 in full view where they could realistically drop back below the threshold. We are now a month from pitchers and catchers reporting, most of the key free agents have signed, including all the good ones at positions of need and the most intriguing trade pieces are no longer on the market. We have gotten to the part where the only thing that could save this offseason is a Harper deal, otherwise I don't see this team going into 2019 better than the one from 2018.
     
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    I wouldn’t necessarily say that. I think “President of Baseball Ops” is the new GM. And “GM” is the new Assistant GM.

    It’s pretty clear that Friedman was extremely involved in player acquisitions, likely leading it, even with Farhan.
     
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    i know that's right
    just frustrated with what ckwg reported about us probably being out on harper
     
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    Trading Kemp, Wood, and Farmer with nothing in return is BFD to me.

    But Puig, as lackluster as he is, was our #2 OFer, and he wasn’t overpaid. I find it hard to believe we are hurting so much financially that moving him was worth it... unless we had another plan at OF.
     
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    You know, the thing about the Puig trade that many keep glossing over and won't accept is the fact that he wanted out. He's shit against left handed pitching and wanted a place where he could be shit while still being allowed to play and accumulate stats for his bid in free agency.

    Force an unhappy Puig to stay..I mean, that sounds tough all, but is that really the best option when you don't plan on paying him come the offseason anyway? The end game for Puig was always what's best for Puig. He got benched late in the year again last season and had already reportedly been bellyaching over being platooned
     
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    Our FO is such a closed book, I am just hoping that they have been leaking this "we're out" shit to throw people off their scent... Just when Scott Boras is involved, you would expect him to happily leak that the Dodgers have entered negotiations. I still don't understand the short term high AAV goal over long term lower AAV. I mean, are they offering 5 yrs at 40MAAV? 3 yrs at 50? I just want to know what they mean by this or if it is just some sort of a smokescreen. Hoping the Manny not getting an offer over 7yrs and 25M per is true, cause that could maybe get the Dodgers back in on Harper, but who knows really?
     
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    Creating a hole in RF doesn’t make sense without a Harper signing.

    Cheap bastards.
     
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