FEDIT POLITICS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. blazer5

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    Also if you think about it? What’s 600k for most well off people. 4-6 years of salary?
     
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    Mousey,

    If/when the mob comes to Irvine, you will change your mind on a lot of things. Even if you double down publicly.

    You are right. We cannot comprehend each other’s conclusions because our personal experiences and perceptions of the world are so different.
    I would not even know where to start.

    I think you would make a good politician.
    You have the temperament, sense of humor, and acting chops to be an endearing ‘moderate Democrat’ that would raise taxes by 4 trillion, eliminate fossil fuel, defund the police, put social workers in the streets, advocate for sanctuary cities, give taxpayer funded lawyers, healthcare, and schooling to illegal aliens, expand the welfare state, support abortion up to the ninth month, support Marxist groups such as Black Lives Matter while they burn cities (again, not Irvine) to the ground, abolish single-family zoning (again, except for Irvine), and push for a more secular humanistic society with larger government that fuels all existing and future problems….

    ...Okay, I am sure you wouldn’t do all that.
    But you have the opportunity to vote for it.

    It won’t end until we have fallen completely.
    All the wild-eyed conspiracy theories are becoming reality.
    Bernie himself says things that seemed radical 6-8 years ago seem mainstream now.

    I will take Trump for now. Then see what happens.

    I see great promise in Donald. I saw something special in Barack too, but he took the wrong path. We won’t agree on that. Oh well!
     
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    watching the senators and people leaving the RNC fearing for their safety because they didn't choose to protect them should be enough for anyone watching
    choosing who gets protected because you control the LE?
    how about when its your turn?
    imagine that happening to any democrat in office and the difference in reaction
     
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  4. BlueMouse

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    1) if he writes it off on his personal taxes, he realizes 35% of the value.
    2) it sounds like he still gets to decide where the money goes, much like the rest of us do with our salary.

    Besides the amount being trivial, the end result doesn’t save the taxpayer any money. And given that he can’t disperse money as part of his job without asking for favors in return, I’m not going to assume the money he personally donates doesn’t also come with strings attached.
     
  5. TAFNAC

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    That is EXACTLY the same as not accepting the salary, he doesn't realize a net gain by donating. This is a common misconception regarding donations.
    The 35% value you reference represents a tax deduction based on what he would have paid had he accepted the salary.
    If he received the salary, he would have paid 35% taxes on the 400k, but not paying that 35% tax because he gave the salary away doesn't yield a net gain for him. It's exactly the same as if he didn't receive the salary in the first place.

    He's been spreading around to various gov't agencies, not charities that benefit him.
    2017
    2018
    2019
    So in every case it's going back into the US gov't. This looks like a pretty impartial, non-political list to me. But I guess you could take it a step farther and just dump it back into the U.S. Treasury.

    It's his salary as set by law. At least we now agree that he's not accepting it and moved on to diminishing that fact.

    The taxpayer gets $400k of additional gov't services every year because some gov't agency gets money they wouldn't have otherwise had.
    If he writes it off, the gov't loses $140k of revenue next year due to the tax writeoff.
    So even with that considered, the taxpayer gets $260k of additional government value every year.
    I'll leave it as an exercise to the reader to decide if giving the government more money actually has any value to the people.

    At least you agree that he is not taking has salary.
    Nothing in DC comes without string attached, but at least he seems to be spreading it around without too much of an obvious political agenda based on the above.
    Again, the only way to truly make it without strings attached would be to give it back to the U.S. Treasury, but there could still be assumptions....
     
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    sometimes you just need to remove your partisan glasses and set down your glass of TDS
     
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    I wasn't even talking about donating his salary when I was talking about sacrifice.
    What I meant was people like Obama and especially the Bidens and Clintons had everything to gain (and did, shamelessly and corruptly in government) by being president and Trump had everything to lose.
    I don't throw around the TDS term lightly, but the fact that somebody can turn donating a half million dollars into a negative is peak TDS.
    96% negative is due to a mental disorder.
    Sorry.
     
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    Sure he donates his salary but let’s not discuss how Trump uses his position to funnel tens of millions of dollars into his businesses/hotels.

    “The tax payer gets an additional 400k in services..” until they are on the hook for the hundreds of millions wasted by Trump on regular golf trips and meaningless vacations (Often to his own properties).
     
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    I have mad respect for Blue Mouse so I wanted to be as factual as possible without attacking.
     
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    thing is the Mouse has at least one kid
    no way he can think madness in the streets is ok no matter how his heart bleeds
    the reason i'm as resolute as i am is absolutely the future of my kids
    even if they don't exactly get it
     
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    I think for most people with kids, your kids are a bigger priority than yourself.
     
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    I can take my TDS glasses off and still see kids being separated from their families at the boarder and jailed for months.

    while I do believe immigration is an issue and want change, even a better wall and extra boarder patrol support, I just cannot get behind what’s happening currently.

    But hey that’s my opinion.

    same as I don’t believe that under Biden we will have masses kicking my door down contrary to what’s being spewed by the right

    at the end of the day guys, we can agree to disagree.
     
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    we can agree to disagree i just like facts
    like the fact that Obama set up those separation facilities and he did it for a good reason
    the child \sex trade is out of control and its probably the only way you can find out who is who
    none of those immigrants have papers or records so you have do the best you can
    blaming it on the current president makes as much sense as a 50 year politician blaming it on a three year president
    he was in the white house when this policy started
    and you're right he won't have masses kicking the doors in because he's a puppet
     
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    No doubt Obama and other presidents have faced immigration issues. I can even admit that during Trumps 4 years, there has been a mass exodus from South America and caused unprecedented numbers of immigrants knocking on our door.

    I just don’t think it takes months to sort it out and even if it does, the treatment of these “ aliens” is horrible.
     
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    the chinese put them in containers and ship em out to sea
    cubans and hatians put them in little rafts on shark infested waters
    whites and poor citizens get their kids put in protective custody when there is too much domestic violence
    it sucks that kids get put in bad situations
    it makes you feel shitty
    remember when they used the starving children dying of aids in africa to pull at your feels back in the late 80s and early 90s ?
    we knew it was a scam
    you never need to lay it on so thick when the thing is true
    only when there is scamming involved
    and you need to trigger 100 percent feels with zero thought
     
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    Do you honestly think it’s a scam?

    I mean, I don’t know what to think anymore. Because NONE of us have seen anything we argue about with our own eyes!

    Literally all we know is what’s fed to us by media.

    kids are always collateral damage but it’s still not right. Regardless of who or how.
     
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    i've never seen a sex trafficked kid in person but i've sure watched enough people talk about to know its brutal
    i don't think epstein or all these pedos are fake
    look at the sentences an average molester gets these days
    its not much since they have to separated from gen pop or they die
    and they get released right back into society w the rest of us to repeat offend
    they rape and murder
    its no joke that pedo culture is strong all over the world
    its like the people that tell you veal is so much better and nbd
    the first time i heard what that was about i stopped eating immediately but not the freaks
    and that culture is all around us
    a large group of people want it to be normalized
    its being taught as alternative lifestyle to our kids
    i'm not talking extremist qanon stuff, its right there in front of you
    and if you don't think the third world is the first place that sees the price tag then you missed it
    everything's for sale and a kid is just a commodity
    especially w all the central american kids coming through mexico
    you think the cartels are going to miss a chance at that payday?
    there's absolutely a market price and i guarantee its not small
    if they're a little too old there's always prostitution
    that shit is real as the day is long
    and i applaud obama and trump for doing everything they can to stop it
    not much more disgusting than dealing in child flesh
    the left hates orange man they are using absolutely everything they can to confuse the ignorant masses
    he isn't falsely separating families for no reason at the border
    there was a time they too were proud to stand up for what's right
     
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    like with covid the scam is in how they report it and how they spin it
    like you say all we know is what we are fed to by the media
    so treat it like the food metaphor you just used
    with all food you eat some purely for taste but you need others for nutrition
    if we just eat what we are fed we get fat and sick and make bad choices
    we are supposed to graze freely and eat from different media sources
    and are supposed to develop taste so we can make better media choices over time
    if for years we just sit there and take everything that comes own the chute we will all have diabetus
    which is what the axis of evil wants!
     
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    Kennedy and Nazis in Germany

     
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    Why does anybody think the USA can do communism better than its ever been done before?
    What will our brand of socialism figure out that no other form of socialism has ever been able to?
     
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