OFFSEASON 2017 MINOR LEAGUE/PROSPECTS Thread

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  1. Doughty8

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    The @Dodgers dipped into minor league free agent market to sign two accomplished Triple-A players who made MLB debuts this year. RP Jesen Therrien (minors): 1.41 ERA, 10.2 SO9, 1.4 BB9 in 57 IP OF Travis Taijeron (PCL): .272/.383/.525, 25 HR in 125 G
     
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    Pretty awesome to see after the fantastic finish he had to the season, Dennis Santana is already in Glendale training for the season.
     
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    MOTHER FUCKER. Kevin Maitan is going to the Angels. MLB fucked us when they put restrictions on these signings unlike the Red Sox guys who just happened to be of a shittier crop. The upside at the top of the Angels system is HUGE, but the floors are the depth of a Florida sinkhole.
     
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    Ok maybe nevermind at that price. He was signed for $2.2M which is a bit of an overpay for a dude coming off what is roundly regarded as a shitty year.
     
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    Before anybody says it, they are probably delaying the signing until the next signing period, so this will have no impact on Ohtani. Not dissimilar to how the Dodgers tried to get Moncada to wait when they signed Alvarez etc.
     
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    Yeah, MLB allowed him to sign now, but the team gets to choose which signing period it will be under. Would guess that you are right that they are going to use this under the next period.
     
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    I'm more shocked that the Angels coupled with the Upton signing that Arte is FINALLY spending his billions!
     
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    I'm not familiar with the signing period maneuvering can you splain or get me a link?
     
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    It has to do with the timing of these Braves guys getting released. MLB is allowing the signing team to choose whether to use money from this signing period or next years since most teams have used up most of their funds.
     
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    No kidding, Maitan had such a bad year that many people don't think of him as much of a prospect anymore. Which makes the Angels finally spending money even funnier if he continues to fizzle out. To show you how bad the Angels system is, he is #9 on BA & BP and MiLBall has him at #13 on the Braves and now he is projected to be the Angels #1.... yeesh.
     
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    moreno's arrogance cost the angels big time
    he still has pujols on the books for another 4 years -- averaging $28.5MM, with another $10MM after he retires
    moron
     
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    I would not call him a moron.
    For a long time we wished that Moreno was our Morono when we had the McCunts as owners.
     
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    i never wished that
    and i despised frank/jamie
     
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    Dodgers top prospects 2018: No. 31-79
    by David Hood | True Blue LA — 4 hours ago

    Quantity is the theme of this year’s Dodgers top prospect list, as the 2018 version is the longest to date, coming in at 79 names before the winter meetings. Though the system is deeper today than at any other point I’ve been covering the organization, the quality has also thinned out at the top, as only seven players graded out at 60 or better. Still, the Dodgers’ system seemingly has an answer for almost any need that could arise in 2018, and should give the front office plenty of ammunition to improve the major league roster during the winter meetings through the next trade deadline.

    If you are new to reading my prospect lists, the number ranking is less important than the tier grade that a player finds himself in (grades are based on the 20-80 scouting scale, with 45 my baseline for MLB acceptability). That may be more true this year than in previous years, as players ranked 46-62 are tightly bound and could almost be randomly shuffled and the ranking would look reasonable. Players are graded in terms of their potential ceiling at the major league level, and the amount of risk (or degree) of likelihood that player reaches the major leagues in a relevant role. Naturally, younger and players further from the big leagues will likely carry more risk (lower score) which creates a gap between their present and future value, which tends to keep them lower in the rankings.

    With each player I provide a quick pro and con blurb in relation to their tools, skills, or other relevant information. You will also find their projected defensive home or pitching role, opening day age, and previous minor league level. Lastly, each player’s name on the list will ink out to a YouTube video that you can view to analyze the player yourself. Until the prospect countdown reaches one, this is a living list, so any players moved or acquired during the off-season will be accounted for in the rankings.

    Like previous years, I only rank players that I have been able to watch in person or have a comfortable enough impression of the player’s tools from watching film. The often leaves players off my list that would otherwise make other media lists built from speaking with scouts. This year, the most notable omission is Melvin Jimenez, whose age and performance in Low-A could almost put him in the top 30 on their own, but a lack of exposure leaves me guessing at his true value.

    So, feel free to scroll down to the list if you just want to see the rankings of players outside the top 30, otherwise, here are a few observations on noteworthy players in this release:

    This portion of the list feels deep in outfielders struggling to make consistent contact and power armed relievers, and the latter should come as no surprise given the emphasis placed on pen arms in the 2017 draft. Riley Ottesen of Utah is the highest ranked from this group on the strength of his strong K peripherals and power arm. Ottesen will likely continue to start in the minors to get consistent work, but his hard fastball and wipeout slider combo could make him a potential late reliever.

    Mitchell Hansen and Johan Mieses have both slipped on the list since last year’s rankings, with both seemingly hitting a wall at their respective levels. Hansen has shown slow but steady improvement and will get another go at Low-A Great Lakes in 2018. He has five at least average tools and could still develop into a solid starting corner outfielder. Mieses is a terrific defender with range and a plus arm, but he failed to make contact often enough in Double-A Tulsa to tap into his plus raw power consistently. Both face longer odds of reaching the majors, but have valuable secondary tools if they can improve at the plate.

    Tulsa’s trio of shortstops just missed the top 30, but all three bare watching as potential big leaguers. Errol Robinson ranks the highest thanks to being the most natural fit at short. Robinson has soft hands, smooth footwork, and quick first step which allow him to extend his range deep behind second base. His offense might be no better than fringe average, but he put the ball in play consistently enough to factor for the Drillers. Drew Jackson is the twitchiest athlete and might also have the strongest arm. His actions aren’t the most natural and he often differed to Robinson at short, with Jackson playing second base for Tulsa. A plus runner, Jackson must rely on his speed to produce at all offensively. Erick Mejia played third almost exclusively down the stretch, but his best path to the majors could be in a utility role. He isn’t the defender that Robinson is, or the athlete that Jackson is, but Mejia might have the most value at the plate, with a solid feel for hit and sneaky pull power to right.

    The friendly offensive environs in the Pioneer League often make hitters for Ogden look better than they otherwise would appear, but the jump to Great Lakes is frequently a humbling experience. Two players that could see significant jumps a year from now are likely to face this test in 2018. Romer Cuadrado has a fairly common outfield profile for the Dodgers in the low minors. Cuadrado has a projectable frame and raw power, but will need to curb his strikeouts to have success in a league that will punish hitters with suppressed power. Infielder Jeffrey Souffront might be better equipped to handle the jump, with a mature plate approach and better feel for hit. Souffront will need to still answer questions about his upside, as he lacks the projectability of Cuadrado, and might peak in a utility role.

    Though he won’t pitch next season, the Dodgers did well in signing Jesen Therrien in minor league free agency. Therrien looks like the right handed version of Edward Paredes and could eventually carve out a right handed/ground ball specialist role in middle relief. Though he lacks major league arm strength, Brian Moran had enough funk in his delivery and command to keep left handers off balance all year in Tulsa, and could fill a specialist role for someone at the major league level in 2018.
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    Isabel is a monster. Saw him at Cucamonga, huge human being with an explosive bat when he makes contact but that is the new kind MLB player. Launch angles, launch angles and launch angles.
     
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    have you seen dj peters in person?
    looks good on video, but curious what guys like you and @ColoradoKidWitGame think
     
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    Yes and he is destined to be in the majors because he has the look along with the talent, his at bats are noisy. No homo but a good looking dude perfect for LA as well.
     
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    Like @Doughty8 said, bat plays well and he's pretty decent in the field to boot. Just needs to cut down on his K's a bit. I want to see how his game translates to AA after what he did in the Cal League and then got worked in the Fall. I'm not as high on him as some others on here are.
     
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    Too bad the AA affiliate isn't local to me in So Cal or I'd go to games, sometimes I feel like I'm Susan Sarandon in Bull Durham WITHOUT the sexual relations :D
     
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    funny...
    i wasn't high on him at all at first
    in fact, i thought he was overrated/overhyped
    but he grew on me
    agreed he k's way too much
    wonder if that's something he can fix or if it's just going to be part of the package
    some guys can't make those type of changes without greatly compromising their power
    we'll see...

    this cracked me up
     
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