DODGERS 2017 NEWS/RUMORS/AROUND MLB Thread

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  1. spanky006

    spanky006 DSP Legend

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    Sadly 100% true. Though I think if the Dodgers would have offered a package centered around Urias last year Atrie might have listened.
     
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    5 Players who will be traded before the deadline
    by Buster Olney | ESPN Senior Writer — 5 hours ago

    Justin Verlander has been mentioned in trade talks, and it's possible that market moons and stars will align and the future Hall of Famer switches teams. But any Verlander deal would be incredibly complicated for the Tigers to pull off in the short time frame that remains before the July 31 trade deadline, because of his salary, his stature in Detroit history and his ability to veto any proposed deal.

    But there are players whose trades are considered imminent by baseball officials. Here are the top players who will be dealt over the next 14 days.

    Sonny Gray, Oakland Athletics
    Now that Jose Quintana has been swapped to the Chicago Cubs, Oakland's right-hander is the best available starter -- a pitcher with experience, a history of success and years of control. The perception of other teams is that Oakland is intent on moving Gray while he is healthy and throwing well. Gray has a 1.33 ERA in his past four starts. Teams that could be involved in the bidding: Milwaukee Brewers, Cubs, Atlanta Braves, Cleveland Indians, Houston Astros and New York Yankees.

    J.D. Martinez, Detroit Tigers
    The position-player market is saturated, generally, and in the hours leading up to the trade deadline, some general managers expect a purge of salary. But Martinez has more value than others, because he is a strong middle-of-the-order hitter who is having a good year, batting over .300 with power. "You'd have to live with his defense to take him on," said one evaluator, "but his offense more than offsets that." And this will interest a lot of teams: Martinez has destroyed left-handed pitchers, carrying a .500 average with damage into Sunday’s game -- 18 hits in 36 at-bats, including four doubles, one triple, six homers, six walks and six strikeouts. He would present an incredible weapon for the Los Angeles Dodgers, whose struggles against lefties last year are well-documented. Other teams that are possible: Cubs, St. Louis Cardinals, Arizona Diamondbacks and Colorado Rockies.

    Justin Wilson, Detroit Tigers
    Wilson isn't a classic left-hander, in that he doesn't dominate left-handed hitters with a great breaking ball. But he is outstanding against right-handed hitters, and he can serve in multiple roles. His value is so high right now that officials think Detroit will capitalize on his standing in the market and move him. Just about every contender could use him in one form or another.

    Pat Neshek, Philadelphia Phillies
    A lot of relievers will move between now and the waiver trade deadline on Aug. 31, but Neshek is expected to be among the first right-handers. The 36-year-old All-Star has allowed just five runs in 36⅓ innings, and he has been equally effective against left-handers and right-handers.

    Yonder Alonso, Oakland Athletics
    He has had record power numbers this year. He made the All-Star team. And the Athletics have been pushing him in the market for weeks with the apparent intention of moving him before he reaches free agency in the fall. There are not a lot of teams looking for first basemen/designated hitter types, but the Yankees have a hole, if the price is right.
     
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    Tigers Reportedly Willing To Include Some Cash In Verlander Trade
    By Steve Adams | July 17, 2017 at 2:24pm CDT

    Two weeks ago, it was reported that while the Tigers were willing to discuss Justin Verlander in trades, they sought a significant prospect return and weren’t inclined to include any financial compensation to offset his sizable contract. Now, MLB.com’s Jon Morosi tweets that the Tigers have softened that stance and are willing to include “some” cash in a theoretical trade to help facilitate a deal. Verlander also has a full no-trade clause, though, so he’d need to green-light any deal the Tigers are interested in making, if such an opportunity even arises.






    So it looks like they're willing to send some money with him in order to get what they want in return
    Interesting turn
    How's about you MFs just take Kazmir along with whatever else LAD feels like giving you?
     
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    still a matter of what we're willing to give up for him
    pretty sure the nerds would still prefer to keep verdugo
     
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    I don't think they're going to move Verdugo, though, was just saying
     
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    Wouldn't want to give too much for Verlander. He's not the same pitcher he was 3-4 years ago.

    Wonder if it's the Kate factor?
     
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    Just red that the Tigers are now willing to eat some of Verlander's contract in a trade. I wonder, Verlander is on the hook for $28MM for the next two years. (his 2020 year has a vesting option which I doubt he will make). I think there is about $11MM left for this year. If the Tigers paid that $11MM and say took Kazmir in trade that might be a good veteran RHP to add to the rotation. I wonder, would Kazmir/Stewart/Calhoun get it done?

    Damn......late to the party.
     
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    Couple things:

    1. RE: Verlander, GuGGs ain't your daddy's McCourt so they don't have to send hot prospects in lieu of cash to get a player.

    2. Idle minds have run amok in here.... ROTFLMAO @ Turner for Stanton or the farm for Trout..... Arte would pay Trout more than Miami gave Stanton to keep him if he were a FA today. You'll see Arte in a 3 man grave, along with him will be Scioscia and Trout. Pujols and Hamilton's accountant will be the pall bearers.
     
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    LAD/DET matches up well for a deal headlined by Verlander with Martinez and Wilson also in tow
    DET now posturing as though money isn't a great deal of concern for them, but as we all know, they're transitioning with their ownership since Ilitch passed away earlier this year.
    Could see a scenario where maybe LAD was trying to flex it's financial muscle in DET's face, saying they'd take on all of Verlander's money in order to keep certain guys on the LAD farm off the table.
    DET maybe fires back " we'll send some money, we want the specs that we want "
     
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    LOL, Nah, they need that dead money and Gonzo's too for that matter for the fantasy Stanton trade! :)
     
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    That would be nice to see Verlander/Martinez/Wilson. How about Joc/Alvarez/Calhoun/Sheffield, we eat the money. Could totally do it because Crawford and Guerrero come off the books at the end of the season to the tune of $29.3MM. Then add in Ethier's contract which is about $15MM. That is a little over $44MM. Then the following year AGon/McCarthy/Kazmir come off the books to the tune of $51.4MM.
     
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    Why are you trading fat Joc Pederson again?
    He has an .838 OPS in CF right now.
    Do you know where that ranks him offensively @ his position?
    Top 5 in MLB.
    There are currently 4 CFs in MLB that have a better OPS/wRC+ than Joc does..one of them is having a comeback year ( McCutchen), and couple others aren't even really CFs ( Conforto and Springer)
    They should keep this player.
     
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    Well just a gut feeling but I don't think Puig and Joc get along much, like Greinke and Puig. I like the team chemistry and think Puig is the higher upside player. Joc is a one trick pony IMO. So trade him while the value is high. Plus room needs to be made for Martinez. Just a feeling from the few times I have seen the two of them interact in the dougout and the OF.
     
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    Part of the issue is Roberts. I'm not speaking in regards to Hill specifically, but with all our starters in general. Roberts just seems to be most comfortable with erring on the side of caution... i.e. would rather pull them too early than too late. On Saturday, for example, Wood was pitching great, but after six innings and only 80 pitches, Roberts replaced him, despite a 6-0 lead. Meanwhile, the Gnats pregame report suggested Bochey would give Bumshithead about 70 pitches, being his first game back. Instead he threw over 100. Who knows, maybe he's "saving" his starters for the postseason, but at what expense? The bullpen's? I guess time will tell.
     
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    Hahahaha So you're trading Joc because you think he doesn't get along with Puig?
    Outstanding.
    I don't think designated 8-hole hitter Puig has that much power, but outstanding thought nonetheless based on the originality alone.
    Have never seen that one.

    Anyway, since returning from injury about a month ago Joc is slashing .316/.438/.684 over about 100 plate appearances.
    That's a 1.121 OPS aka elite for any position.
    Charlie Blackmon and Andrew McCutchen are the only everyday CFs outperforming Joc offensively.
    Springer's basically split his CF/RF innings down the middle this year, has played far more RF in his career, but you can count him if you like as well, doesn't make any difference.
    Joc is doing very well for himself offensively and his numbers continue to climb upward since his rookie season.
    His bat is more than proving it's worth in CF and if he ever had to move to the corner, an .850 OPS plays there too
     
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    I've seen those interactions too - my read is that it's mostly in jest. I could be wrong, but I don't think there are any issues there, at least serious ones.

    That said, hopefully Joc has learned that he needs to improve his fly ball calling skills.
     
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    Norm Cash?
     
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    These aren't fly balls causing trouble between them though
    These are well hit balls into the gap, hard to call off because it's questionable if " I've got it " and because you're running flat out full sprint
    They're basically 50/50 balls
     
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    So you're telling me they'll take Ralston Cash for Verlander?
     
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    Maybe some of them, but the one Bellinger caught over Joc was not a full out sprint for him.
     
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