DSP 2018 OTHER SPORTS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Apr 2, 2017.

  1. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    At least i didn't compare him to bernie sanders.
    AOC can be his Plato.

    As far as jesus... i dont bundle him with anyone but use him to compare against everyone else.
    The bible is pretty negative on the Greek philosophy that dominated Rome.
    It had become adopted by the Jews themselves. Its why Jesus showed them to chill with revolution.
    It was far too late. The Jews had already been seduced by the fine arguments of the socratic method.

    Does your philosophy undermine the foundation of anyone who hears it or does it work to edify the spirit as loving wisdom is supposed to do?
     
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    Love is certainly the idea, sure. But it is agape, not eros or even filial love as Hollywood and Madison Avenue soft-peddle it. As for time, the chronos concept is that of this world, but that Greek you abhor ... they used the term kairos to describe God's Time, not man's. So yeah ... the Incarnation, Passion, Death and Resurrection are both undermining of this world's myopic view of what constitutes truth, AND a wise didactic lesson on abiding, unconditional love. I mean, after all, Rube ... infinite goodness is creating a being that you know in advance is going to complain.

    Anyway ... I'm hitting the rack. Been a long day, bro.
     
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    Not defending Stevens at all. Wish Lowery would have given him the Johnny Fontaine treatment.
     
  4. TAFNAC

    TAFNAC Cossack Staff Member Administrator

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    I love this post.
    I don't really agree with all of it: The money changers would tell you Jesus did some rebelling; and Socrates was fighting against a state that said it was the moral authority.
    But it was brilliant nonetheless. Especially the "I know nothing" is sophistry. Because it is.
     
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  5. Finski

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    ^^^^ THIS

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    It can be. It's also semantics. Socrates clearly knew more than the sophists, but he was willing to admit when he was wrong or out of his element.

    Also, to say everyone is a sophist demeans genuine humility. Knowledge isn't infinite, but it's pretty freaking close. So even when Socrates knew a shit-ton about something, he knew it was a Dixie cup in the Aegean.

    Hey, I get it. We look back and say this or that about that 'teacher' ... but in the case of Christ, he wasn't JUST a teacher. He also put His money where his soul was. Ditto Socrates., and Copernicus, etcetera ... but Jesus gets top billing because ... well, you know why, even if you don't share my theology. None of those "other teachers" professed being the Son of God. He was either God, a liar, or a psycho. That's why when Muslims profess that Jesus was a prophet, too ... they are both lying and ignorant. They know they'd have fatwa'd Jesus faster than Pontius Pilate had Him nailed to a tree. Those polytheistic idol-worshipping hypocrites are hardly theologians ...

    And I just took this into 'off-topic' status. Sorry, boyos. Vacation has me champing at the bit to lecture.

    I apologize.

    Which I guess makes me sophist, too ....

    :grandal:
     
  7. rube

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    I could manifest you into agreeing with me if I didn't have to go to USC get a cast on this hand today.
     
  8. rube

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    Socrates knew more.
    He knew he knew more.
    He revelled in it and fucked with everyone.
    Came to the realization that he was too just/good/smart for the people of his world.
    He would put a purity test on everyone he met to see how smart they were only to show them how truly ignorant they were.
    His lack of fear of death was from the arrogant position that he had no peers.
    He also had nothing to lose in a variety of social ways due to his lifestyle.
    And he wanted to stick it to the rulers one last time with his death.
    The ultimate fuck you to society would be to have them kill him simply because he made them all hate him.
    They had to fuck with the letter of the rules in order to convict him in the same way that he fucked with the letter of the rules.
    He also was sure that the spirit he said spoke to him assured him that he would not die because the just could not be harmed.
    And that he would pass into the spirit world where he would get his just reward.
    So was he an atheist as the courts claimed because he did not follow the state gods or was he possessed by a demon or was he a prophet?
    Maybe he was a prophet, but not all prophets are of god. Socrates did follow the Delphic oracles so that is your answer.
    Sure he made some decent points and wrote some good songs... but so did Charles Manson.
     
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    Nahh man. I was protected myself.
     
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    Of course we are talking about love.
    You dont love your dad your mom your dog your brother your coach because they are sexy.
    You dont love them because they make you feel good emotionally.
    You dont love them because they are necessarily all that great people.
    You love them because they are yours, you choose them.
    You love them because they were given to you.
    You love them because they are there.
    So you give them your mind, your soul, your heart... aka your time, your presence, and your attention.
     
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    Showing that its more than enough.
     
  12. Finski

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    I call bullshit. Manson never wrote a good song. 'Garbage Dump' was his best effort and that made Bobby Goldsboro look like Duke Ellington.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    lol bobby goldsboro
    great sub-ref
    saw something on him a while back and thought, "who the fuck does he look like?"
    couldn't figure it out
    until just now...
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    Depends how much has manifested.
     
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    Destiny speaking pretty loudly.
     
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    Aldon Smith lighting up the police blotter again. Lol DUI in KC
     
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    Damn. RAIDERS are this year's sacrifice to Hard Knocks
    RIP Carr
     
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    This is gonna be fun.
     
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    Evidently they think leaving Oakland is more exciting than arriving in Vegas. Or that RAIDER fans having to wait 7 weeks after week 1 to see their team again is unfair ( duh) and this is a way to make up for that. Either way it's probably going to be the most entertaining Hard Knocks ever with Chucky and Mayock, Brown and Burfict, Carr and Incognito. This team is playing outside of the US 3 times next season including a preseason game in Winnipeg VS the Packers. Smh Way too much shit going on
     
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    Sounds like Johnathan Abram could steal the show on Hard Knocks. Already starting @ safety and potentially in line to be named one of the team captains as a rookie. Rare stuff. Can see why Belichick was targeting him. Mature, young tone setter at the 2nd/3rd level of the D

     

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