Andre Ethier Trade Speculation Thread

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  1. THINKBLUE

    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

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    It's the only thing really going on and he's a big part of the team. Probably deserves some temporary own thread status.

    I for one am not a fan of moving Dre. Dre and Kemp are our sure things out there and a staple. What happens if Crawford flops?
     
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    If we got a young infielder and signed an outfielder that allows us to move Kemp to RF, that's something to ponder but idk if Andre is going to net you a great young infielder.
     
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    Perhaps Gordon goes with him to make it more likely?
     
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    Under the Guggs we don't trade for players without all-star appearances under their belt. So if Ethier doesn't net a stud, I wouldn't expect a trade.
     
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    I think the trade to the Mariners would be great, actually. They take Ethier's full contract obligation, which seems very reasonable in terms of $/year, and we get a young 3B. Then we can turn around and sign Bourn to a 2 year deal at a high annual amount (so he accepts the 2-year deal) and it gives us the flexibility we need for Puig.

    Unless we get a young, above average 3B or SS, we cannot trade Ethier, at least not yet.
     
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    wasn't aware there were still rumors about moving him. nice chip for a trade if puig is on a fast track. but for now i don't see why we would move him.
     
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    the good thing with Dre is that you know exactly what you get.. solid defense, good arm, great numbers vs RHP, terrible vs LHP and the most streaky SOB I've seen in quite some time... when the guys gets on fire he's an unstoppable force... I like him over Swisher or any other option out there...
     
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    One thing that stood out in an interview that MLB had with Kasten was his stating that we NO player on the roster with a contract that takes them past 36 years of age.
     
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    I don't really want us to get a third baseman, because that means Hanley remains at short. Hanley Ramirez is a horrible fucking shortstop, and needs to move to third ASAP. His ball transfer is almost as brutal as his range, and will be a real liability to our new and improved pitching staff.

    Back to the subject. i think the Ethier contract in this day and age is very reasonable. Moving someone like Dre who is a custodian of this team in right doesn't seem like a move I'm willing to jump on unless the trade jumps out at me. But, eventually his splits have to be taken into account. Every bullpen in the league has one or two specialist LHP's in the bullpen. That isn't going to change, ever. This guy simply can't hit them and this isn't going to change, ever. We have the money to buy a competent replacement. I doubt he would be as good as Dre, but if we can get a top class SS or SP via trade and replace Ethier with a Swisher or Bourne type player, I would be open to it. Addition by more addition. We have the cash.
     
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    W/ Dre, he's a storm of inconsistency...yet...his bottom line is fucking consistent as well. Like you said, you know what you're getting. And that's a damn good player, who also can have a monster year at any time. Imagine him in this lineup. Give him another year here. I have a feeling he's gonna put it all together.
     
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    and he'll have a feast with all the RISP he's gonna have...
     
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    Unless that RISP comes after the fifth inning... And they make the call to their bullpen. Then it becomes RLISP
     
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    I don't know what's going to happen, but I'm rooting for Puig to FORCE the FO to do something about that outfield. Hence, Ethier being the odd man out.
     
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    Ethier has shown in the past he can hit when he is patient and believes in the hitter behind him. I also wonder what he could become if he ever figures out how to hit lefties (maybe wishful thinking, but potential for him to be better). I've been in favor of trading him in the past, but I prefer rolling with him right now. And if Puig is on the fast track to the majors, maybe he can come up to platoon with Ethier come July.
     
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    this would be a nice problem to have
     
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    Puig has done nothing to warrant a big move like this. Even though he's being paid a lot, he needs to be ready. All he's done so far is hurt himself and have apparent work ethic issues. We really can't know for sure about him until he has a full season of pro ball under his belt.

    And Ethier is a damn good hitter to give up.
     
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    FYI, Puig hasnt play since December 12, and before that he played on Dec 1... I think he's injured... interesting how there's no news about it anywhere...
     
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    This whole premise that we would trade Dre to sign Swisher (started the whole rumor thing) is illogical. Signing Swisher would cost us a draft pick and I really think the FO wants to see how THIS team performs as constructed.
     
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    meh
    more unwarranted speculation
    interesting thought though
    would we be better with bourn and sans either?
    i guess a lot of that would depend on what we got in return for dre...


    Could Dodgers trade Ethier, sign Bourn? They say they won't
    By Danny Knobler | Baseball Insider
    December 19, 2012 5:53 pm ET

    For all the money the Dodgers have spent, they still don't have a leadoff hitter.

    Why not Michael Bourn?​

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    You could come up with a few reasons why not, starting with the point that the Dodgers already have three outfielders they're committed to paying a combined $54.6 million in 2013. To even think of signing Bourn, the Dodgers would need to trade an outfielder, most likely Andre Ethier.

    And even though one source said the idea had been discussed, a Dodgers official said definitively Wednesday night that nothing of the sort will happen.

    Instead, the Dodgers say, their focus now is to add a late-inning reliever to their bullpen.

    The idea of trading Ethier was raised earlier this week, and the Dodgers insisted then that it wasn't going to happen. The Dodgers signed Ethier to an $85 million extension just six months ago, but his almost total lack of production against left-handers (.606 OPS against lefties ranked 213th in the majors) now comes up regularly in conversations with Dodger people.

    Some in the organization are also concerned about the leadoff spot, which likely goes to Hanley Ramirez or Mark Ellis, the way the roster is currently constructed. Carl Crawford has never been comfortable leading off, which is why he has led off just seven times in the last five seasons.

    Dodgers leadoff hitters were 26th in baseball in runs scored in 2012, and they were 29th in leadoff on-base percentage (.281). The Braves ranked seventh in baseball in leadoff on-base percentage (.346), with Bourn their primary leadoff man.​
     

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