Are Dodgers more likely to rebound or miss playoffs?

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Where do the 2018 Dodgers finish?

  1. Win NL West

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    23.1%
  2. Reach Wild Card game

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  3. Miss Postseason

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    76.9%
  1. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    Are the Dodgers more likely to rebound or miss the playoffs?
    With L.A. closer to the basement than the top of the NL West, is there hope for a rebound, or is it time to give up on 2018?
    by David Schoenfield | ESPN Senior Writer — 4 hours ago
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    Not to speak for fans of the Los Angeles Dodgers, but it was a bitter World Series defeat last fall. The best Dodgers team of the Clayton Kershaw era finally reached the World Series, and for all the lamenting about Dave Roberts' managing of the pitching staff and Yu Darvish's performance, the team's two best players failed in the biggest moments. Kenley Jansen, the best closer in the game, blew the save in Game 2. Kershaw couldn't hold a 4-0 lead in Game 5. The Astros won Game 7.

    With the pain of that defeat still resonating, the Dodgers are off to a lackluster 16-20 start. With Corey Seager out for the season, the team still waiting on Justin Turner's return and Kershaw on the DL with biceps tendinitis, angst in Dodger Nation is flowing high. The concern is understandable: It's been 30 years now since the miracle season of 1988 and the window with peak Kershaw may have passed.

    At the start of the season, FanGraphs projected the Dodgers' odds of winning the division at 85.2 percent. Those odds are now at 36.7 percent; the Diamondbacks, with an eight-game lead over the Dodgers, are now the division favorites at 42.5 percent. The Dodgers' chances of making the playoffs have plummeted from 94 percent to 58.2 percent.

    It all sets up as a season-long play on the emotions of Dodgers fans: Can the Dodgers return to the World Series or might they miss the playoffs altogether? Do they go all-in at some point -- say, use their deep reservoir of talent in the minor leagues to go after Manny Machado -- or do they stick to their guns, remain below the $197 million luxury-tax threshold and simply let the season play out with the current roster?

    A 16-20 start isn't permanently damaging, but in the two-wild-card era since 2012, it's rare for a team to make the playoffs after starting the season below .500 after 36 games. Only six of 60 playoff teams have done so, and none in the past two seasons:
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    It's also true that the first 36 games provide a decent snapshot of things to come. Our 60 playoff teams combined for a .566 winning percentage in their first 36 games; they combined for a .577 winning percentage the rest of the season.

    "I don't think anybody here would use our injuries as an excuse because, to your point, we have the resources in this market, as an organization, to build depth and to have contingencies in place," Dodgers general manager Farhan Zaidi told Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times. "We have a track record of doing it. I think it would be disingenuous for us to suddenly say it's different."

    That depth has been tested, with guys like Kyle Farmer and Max Muncy receiving playing time and not hitting well. Rookie outfielder Alex Verdugo got a chance to play in the wake of Seager's injury, as Chris Taylor has shifted back to shortstop, but was sent back down when Yasiel Puig returned from the DL. With a lack of power, he's not ready to be a big contributor anyway. Matt Kemp, a player few expected to even make the roster, has actually helped keep the offense afloat with a strong start.

    Still, the feeling here is that the team will need another bat, aside from Turner's return to the lineup. Taylor and Cody Bellinger have yet to match their 2017 production, and Puig has yet to homer in 92 at-bats. While the Dodgers can expect more from Bellinger and Puig, Kemp is likely to regress, and you never know how Turner's wrist will respond when he does come back. Aside from all that, they're still down Seager.

    Machado would obviously give them the power bat to replace Seager and allow them to move Taylor back to the outfield. Dodgers Nation -- the Twitter account, anyway -- says not to count on a Machado trade. "I think they're going to end up short of all-in, but they will absolutely do something to bolster the squad if it's justified," suggested a recent tweet. "Team just needs to avoid a complete collapse in the meantime and hover around .500 or a few above."

    The problem with hovering around .500 is that the Diamondbacks and Rockies look like tough obstacles to climb over. When the Dodgers clawed back from that 15-21 start to win the division in 2013, they took advantage of a weak NL West. The Diamondbacks finished in second at 81-81, while the Padres, Giants and Rockies all finished under .500.

    The Diamondbacks are off to a great start -- including an 8-4 mark against the Dodgers -- and have done it even though Jake Lamb and Steven Souza Jr., two of their best hitters, have been sidelined for most of the season. Those two have played just nine games between them, although Souza just returned and Lamb is expected back soon. Paul Goldschmidt is off to a slow start at .227/.357/.414, so there's a good chance the Diamondbacks' offense, which has actually scored fewer runs per game than the Dodgers', improves moving forward.

    The Rockies are the team nobody is paying attention to, and when they do, they're still getting it wrong. This is a team with a strong rotation, good bullpen and terrible offense. They absolutely need to upgrade at first base, where Ian Desmond is killing them with a .176/.218/.360 line, and find at least another corner outfielder, with Carlos Gonzalez and Gerardo Parra drifting along with sub-.700 OPS figures.

    The Rockies are averaging 3.95 runs per game, down from 5.09 in 2017. Put it this way: The Rockies have ranked lower than fifth in the NL in runs just twice in their history -- seventh in their expansion year of 1993 and eighth in 2008. They've ranked no lower than third since 2009. This year, they're 11th. That's how good the pitching has been.

    Heck, if any team needs Machado, it's the Rockies, not the Dodgers.

    Who wins the NL West? I'm going with the Diamondbacks and that eight-game cushion they've already built over the Dodgers. And Machado? I predict he'll be traded to the Braves.
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  2. TheKnockdown

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    If the Diamondbacks continue playing the way they are, I don't see us rebounding. Especially with how strong the NL East has been.

    I will happily take being proven wrong though.
     
  3. Fall Winslow

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    Saw a piece from LA Times that said the FO will have some explaining to do if they miss the post season.
    Personally, I don't need an explanation.
    Fuck words, actions speak louder.
    Reset the lux tax and sign Harper or Machado this winter and that'll be enough said.
    Anything short of that, I won't care for
     
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    I wonder about the afformentioned and highly praised depth then.
    If the need too use it, as so particularly apparent right now, yields these results, then maybe ours is over rated somewhat. Aside from Buehler, I must be missing it.
    With so many auto outs, like Puig for instance, it would actually be nice if the depth provided something decent in position players.
    Imo, they are just other generic bodies...nothing to get hung about.
    And I really am puzzled over the hitting approach, if you can call it an "approach". Serious focused coaching needed here, top to bottom.
     
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    Depth is another word for “value” or “cheap”. Except this team isn’t exactly cheap either since keeping the roster at $197M isn’t exactly cheap.

    What this team is right now is a physically broken down, expensive, undisciplined, “resting on last year’s laurels”, badly managed and trained team....that has a lot of really big decisions to make sooner rather than later.

    I just feel like this “depth” peaked last year and reached its ceiling. One game away and they blew it. Hard to come back from that.
     
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    only depth we currently have is how far we can continue spiraling downward
    but seriously, our depth (for the most part) isn’t mlb ready
    this year is a write off
    no way the fo will want to eat $$$ at the trade deadline after working so hard to get below the luxury tax... and tbh, they should sit pat
    this team, even at full strength, is nowhere near as good as last year’s squad (at least not imo)
    meh
     
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    Seriously, I wouldn’t mind if they were net sellers at the deadline, for cheaper “talent” and then go all out in FA.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    tbh not even sure they'll do it then
    maybe some mid/upper-level upgrades
    but i really have trouble seeing them spending on a machado or harper
     
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    If they reset the luxury tax and do not spend on one of these phenoms, personally, my C grade for the FO moves to a F
    We all know why they've been fighting with the luxury tax in the first place, because McCourt left the whole org a mess and made them gamble at the outset
    But if they clear these fuckin books of McCourt's fuckery and fail to land one of these young superstars, that's it, sign LAD up for another embarrassing 30 year run of nothingness..all of LA's hope truly shifts back to the Lakers - as per usual
     
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    They do need to go and get a Machado or a Harper while keeping under the cap this year.
    The point is not to be under the tax, its to stay under for this season to get out of the 50% penalty.
    Dodgers will spend, just not spend paying a 50% penalty.
    If they keep the salary down till the end of this year the penalty drops to 22.5%.
    Next year they can go wild signing the best of the best.
    This year they should start shedding some of their assets that will be blocked.
    Guys good enough to have value in trade but not so good you would rather keep.
    The Royals are perfect partners as they always do these type of player dumps to get prospects and they are low in the tax.
    Mike Moustakas, Kelvin Herrera and Whit Merryfield are all gonna be 29/30 this season.
    Give them Puig, Will Smith, Brock Stewart, Edwin Rios and they get Rich Hill to be shine up again by letting him pitch then cash him in another trade.

    2B: Seager
    SS: Machado
    RF: Harper
    3B: Turner
    CF: Bellinger
    LF: Kemp
    1B: Moustakas
    C : Grandal

    That is a killer lineup.
     
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    That lineup sucks. And you know why.
     
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    They better spend because if they don't, this ownership group may end up being more hated than McCourt. At least the parking lot king made no effort to hide his greed and cost cutting.

    This group is a huge dick tease.....and the collective blue balls of the Dodger fan base has its limits.

    They valued this team for the TV rights and now they are PV'ing that cash flow to this year. Their calculations better add up.

    Even more depressing is that this ownership group gives me the feeling they will pull off a Marlins by selling if we end up winning the whole damn thing. This group doesn't exactly scream dynasty.
     

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