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Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Feb 9, 2014.

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  1. BlueMouse

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    I'm new too, they're pretty cool here, make yourself at home.
     
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    I gotta love the "Lasorda's Gut" handle even if you are full of shiite

    I bet you've got better pics of Tommy's gut too don't you? You still collecting them? Did you see the card table gut pic where it looked like the table rested on his cannoli laden girth?
     
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    Nah just the one. What do you mean full of "Shiite?"
     
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    Mindboggling stupidity...
     
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    I may be in the minority, but I would move two of Urias, Seager, Joc for Price/Hamels. Just not sure which one id rather keep...
     
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    The answer is Seager. Gotta keep him.
     
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    For sure. There are not many sure things with prospects, but his brother has turned into a solid player, and all signs point to Corey being even better.
     
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    Kyle has even said Corey is better than he is.
     
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    I agree with this
    And with the attrition rate of pitchers I'd deal Joc and Urias for Price
    Urias will not help our club til a few years from now. But imo our window is within these next couple years probably only this year if Hanley leaves. Everybody gets hurt again. Greinke walks. Who knows. Then there's the uncertainty of prospects. I rather get the known entity where I know I am getting a legit ace. However I'd feel much more comfortable with a deal in place instead of these 2 month rental deals
    I mean a better prospect (no slight to Seager) in Addison Russell was traded for Samardzija.
    We cant expect to get these pitchers for nothing tbh
     
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    I don't touch Seager ever and Urias is very close on that list. Joc might be expendable because we already have a glut in the OF and even trading one guy (please god Crawford) wouldn't really create a spot for him.
     
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    especially if it helps us win now
    as i alluded before, sliding price or hamels into the #3 slot improves our rotation substantially
    and josh (and possibly ryu) into the pen in the postseason would help as well
    but, yeah... who to keep/let go
    seager's bro might have said he's better than him
    but steve sax once said the same about dave sax so...
    they're all great prospects, but they're just that... prospects
    until they prove otherwise, on the big stage
    the list of can't miss prospects who fail is far greater than the ones who succeed... and the highway is littered with joe thurstons and billy ashleys
    that said, i'm still reluctant to give up any of them
    if i had to give up two, i guess it would be joc and urias
    and that's only because seager seems closest to the bigs
    still idfk :shrug:
     
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    I hate when people say that shouldn't we make a trade because we are good enough to win the NL West with what we have now. The goal is to win the World Series, not the f'n NL West. I'm torn on what I want the Dodgers to do at the deadline because I love our prospects, but I'm not sure our current team can beat someone like Detroit/Oakland/Anaheim in a 4 out of 7 series if we make it to that point. Ryu has been great for us, but I don't think a 3/4 of Ryu-Beckett wins us a WS. The ability to slot a guy like Lester/Hamels/Price into the 3 spot and push Ryu back to 4 would make us a lot stronger in the rotation and the bullpen. I am leaning towards trading for one of the available aces if the price isn't ridiculous.
     
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    been thinking about it too and i think it would be joc/urias for me since the bigger need it at the corner
    it would be amazing to add a pitcher of that caliber to the rotation
    and if you look at all those prospects we've had that were untouchable and now we struggle to remember their names
    i think you have to make the deal especially if the phils pay some contract
    but then they would want all three and i really don't want to do that
    and i would love to see joc play tbh so i'm fine if it doesn't happen too
     
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    The thing I would disagree with is the idea that we have any sort of championship window. Guggenheim wants to compete today, tomorrow, and 100 years from now.
     
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    I wish Lester wasn't a FA this offseason because he'd easily be my #1 target with his great success in the postseason. A 2.11 career postseason ERA in 76 IP mainly vs the AL is insanely good. I'd feel really good about our chances going into any series him a 1-2-3 of Kershaw-Greinke-Lester. I'd say I'm a bit more high on him than Hamels or Price, but Hamels and Price obviously have better contract situations.
     
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    The two-month rental aspect really bothers me, especially as Lester's on record saying he would be open to going back to Boston over the winter. Sure, no prospect is a sure thing. But as the article that irish posted yesterday so thoroughly explains, having Lester on the roster doesn't guarantee he'd even pitch in the postseason (should we finish with a WC spot) and improves us only marginally in a best-of-seven and even less in a best-of-five. So, while no prospect is a sure thing, neither is having another ace pitcher on the team. Get him to extend his contract, and then we can talk. Otherwise our top tier prospects should not even be in the conversation.

    The price on Price is higher now that they're back in the hunt, and it was high before. As for Hamels, that's a tough one. Would the Dodgers look to re-sign Greinke if he opts-out after next season, and if so, would having Hamels' contract on the books preclude them from doing that? Because I'd probably rather have Zack.

    I say address the bullpen now. I think an improvement there makes a bigger impact, and at a lower cost.
     
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