Conspiracy Theory Thread

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  1. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    its a big question man
    i have a religious centered opinion and a secular focused one
    in other words one that is mostly subjective to one that is a little less so
    i dont know which one you want, plus we all know im not very good at putting things into a succinct thought :D

    its really hard to even start talking about it because jesus is the linchpin of the whole shebang
    without the entire context any answer will sound silly

    the 'son' thing is a human framework to look at the relationship of jesus/god
    its always existed as a way of interpreting the quickening of spirit turning into flesh
    when a fetus in a belly starts to flip around its called the quickening because the word 'quick' is roughly translated as life
    i mean roughly because a lot of these words do not translate properly, which is the root of so much bullshit dogma

    anyway the baby being just a piece of flesh growing inside a womans body is nothing
    sure its technically alive, but so is moss and fungi
    flesh for its own sake is nothing, its material
    so when the spirit of god takes on this physical mortal suit of meat = jesus
    and the best way humans have always understood this is using the motif of the pregnant woman

    but jesus has only been around 2000 or so years ago?
    says who?

    jesus in flesh maybe
    'and the word was with god and the word was god'
    the logos is the word/will of god
    your word is your bond, and through the logos we are to know god in physical form
    that is the first covenant made from god with man and god dont lie

    just like our word displays what our will is
    what we say and do = who we really are
    unfortunately most of us have difficulties seeing the truth because we are trained from childhood to not be who we really are
    being enslaved mentally and psychologically to the bondage of a fully materialized manifestation of the original mystery cult... or should i say it the way you most likely would know it
    cult-ur = cult of the city (ur = city, its not the name of a specific city as some people think, but simply the ancient word for city)

    look up the word mystery in your new testament and read what jesus has to say
    it relates directly with egypt
    when people tell you that the city of babel has always been evil ask them why babel means "gate of god" and specifically the god of abraham?
    read the story of mammon that jesus tells as well
    about how the egyptians were enslaved by the great cities
    they lured the people in with material things
    but they would have to work hard for those things
    that is how our slave mentality was created
    our DNA is jacked up in many ways
    the desire to sell oneself into bondage to an earthly master in order for that master to take care of you = employment = slavery
    we cant help ourselves, we travel huge distances looking for jobs jobs jobs
    we are slaves like that

    btw i got more into the physical side of things. but thats because for our POV that is like 99.9999% of the story
    in reality its more like the .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001th percent
    but of course one of the other diseases of our DNA is the tendency to see ourselves as the center of the universe, so to speak

    spiritually there is a huge battle
    physically its to be fought with the sword that is love and the armor that is truth
    and love does not mean the word love in our dictionary nor does the word truth mean how its defined either
    our english definitions are lacking

    this spiritual war is different
    one side is fighting to the death, the other is fighting to the life
    you see the difference?
    winning by the sword is great, but what does it truly mean?
    that you proved yourself to be stronger than your foe?
    that you are a better warrior?
    that you are a bigger bully basically
    who can be the bigger asshole

    i dont think thats what we are talking about here though
    one side thinks its about that, the other side is out to prove to everyone how its so not about that at all
    every so often humanity needs to be reminded of that
    our DNA needs to be reset
    the bible in english says that jesus is gods 'only begotten son'
    that translation makes us think it means its his only son
    but that entire phrase was a translation of a single word
    a word that is translated everywhere else in the bible as something like most favored/best/favorite son
    similar to how in the bible there are many stories of the second or last born son being favored over the first born even though in all ancient law the first born was the one to get the fathers inheritance/city/kingdom
    but in the bible the first born gets the shaft nearly every single time, starting with cain all the way down to all the bible stories where the first born is either evil, falls into temptation, gets killed, plague pestilence or something or other happens to him which makes it kosher to pass him up in the order of succession

    the reason jesu krishna sounds a lot like jesus christ is because essentially the words mean the same thing
    anointed son of god
    which goes back to the most favored son of god, the one anointed over the one who 'deserves' it

    see the rabbinical jews problem with jesus is that they felt they deserved a king, an earthly king, a king of power and majesty as their redeeming messiah
    just like how the ancient egyptian workers who revolted and left egypt with moses
    moses asked them to have faith in the true god, the god that did not need idols to show his power
    but when moses left them for a period of time they grew restless
    most people misunderstand this, they believe that the golden calf symbolized some kind of pagan egyptian god
    what it represented was the pagan egyptian mindset
    read the text, the people are constructing an idol to god, the very same god that took them out of egypt
    without moses there to remind them of the words of the god they needed that idol to worship to and thank for their liberation
    moses came down pissed off when he realized that after everything that had happened his people STILL didnt get it
    the people were still stuck in that matrix, even though physically they had been freed
    i guess he thought maybe 40 years in the desert would be enough time to change their worldview, but obviously that didnt work either as we read on later

    jesus is the spirit of god manifest in physical form
    when/how is so far out of our understanding, but there are plenty of clues, and as time goes on more and more light is shed upon those clues
    the why is maybe easier to understand

    the previous answer god had was to wipe most everyone out and basically start from scratch
    but corruption still survived in the DNA
    there needed to be another plan
    but all eventualities are already planned out in advance because free will is integral to overall mission
    and if free will is part of the mission then the mission has to account for all eventualities created upon the exercise of free will
    the plan does not change, the change IS inherent in the plan

    and the manifestation of god on earth is most blatantly explained in the same way a true leader goes out in front of battle and leads by example and not merely by inspirational words from behind the line of fire
    except jesis didnt charge into battle using human tools of war
    he used love as his weapon
    and as his army we are supposed to do the same
    in the bible it becomes clearer that the israelites forgot about that, and its why david and the rest had such a hard time of it, and why they fell into such spiritual, emotional ,and material disrepair
    but the example of jesus is supposed to serve as a reminder of the truth that is written in our genetic code
    we all have the truth within us
    but we have been programmed with another set of instructions
    our basic programming is still there though
    prime directives still can be accessed
    we just have to turn off all the other programming first
    as best we can
    once you clear away all of that crap you will start to remember what those prime directives are
    and after you have done that you have just one thing to do
    listen
     
  2. rube

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    talk about killing a thread :D
    all that and i even forgot to address the egyptian part of the jesus myth in any specifics as originally asked about
    but thats probably another wall of text just on that
     
  3. Joey Cifelli

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    That was the wall of text I wanted!
     
  4. limeytech

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    "If the United States ever experiences an attempt at a coup to overthrow the government it will come from the C.I.A..The agency represents a tremendous power and total unaccountability to anyone..."

    - J.F.K (from a speech given one month before he was assassinated)
     
  5. rube

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    the KGB had its plans to overthrow the government if it ever went away from its secret mission
    the Soviets accepted change and therefore the KGB had to act to secure itself from being destroyed
    thats when this system of big corporations, organized crime and military interests were created under the KGB umbrella to form a shadow government
    and when the time came to pull the string the shadow government slipped right in without people noticing much
    its one time director Vladimir Putin was the leader of this new dynasty
    Putin is no longer the president but Russia is still very much controlled either by him, his cronies, or his policies

    the CIA had its plans to overthrow the government if it ever went away from its secret mission
    the Americans accepted change and therefore the CIA had to act to secure itself from being destroyed
    thats when this system of big corporations, organized crime and military interests were created under the CIA umbrella to form a shadow government
    and when the time came to pull the string the shadow government slipped right in without people noticing much
    its one time director George H. W. Bush was the leader of this new dynasty
    Bush is no longer the president but the US is still very much controlled either by him, his cronies, or his policies
     
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    Fantastic rants as per usual Rube, so you've outlined how G.H.W. Bush and Putin are blood brothers from different mothers? And you put this notion in print where others can read it and CIA spider bots can locate the keywords and pass them back to Langley? Good luck my conspiracy obsessed friend...

    ... you know that I'm now required, by virtue of this reply and by having posted elsewhere about the CIA, to ignore, decry or obfuscate everything that you say in an effort to protect you from yourself. Beware that Big Brother and the Holding Co. is watching... and they are growing displeased with any mention of them in a less than glowing light.
     
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  9. irish

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  10. Biggie

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    JFK easily the biggest conspiracy. It was a CIA cover up it just makes too much sense.
     
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    Yeah but we're trying to protect Ruben by not throwing fuel on the conspiracy fire... too frequently...

    I can neither confirm nor deny that any common sense review of the pitiful answers provided by the Warren commission about hallucinogenic bullet paths somehow ricocheting all over fucking Texas in order to support the BS that this was a single shooter event, are real or not real.

    The company does not know or admit to knowing more despite widespread indications to the contrary. We the people will likely never learn the truth because the liars in DC have deemed that 'we can't handle the truth' when indeed its the liars in DC that stand the harsh light of truth.
     
  12. irish

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    more amazing that the public actually bought it
    then again, people not living in big cities -- the moral majority -- can be pretty gullible and stupid
    even more so in 1963
    they didn't care that sharpshooters couldn't duplicate oswald's shot
    they didn't care that a "magic" bullet defied all logic and physics
    they didn't care about gunshot sounds and puffs of smokes coming from the grassy knoll
    they didn't care whether any of it made sense or not
    their government would never lie to them
    blame oswald, kill oswald and then poison ruby (allegedly) -- trail gone; game over
    the warren commission was a joke, a charade created to confirm what we were already told
    they had absolutely zero intent of discovering or divulging anything; ask jim garrison

    little known fact... fwiw, future president gerald ford was on the warren commission
     
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    the final line was indeed an interesting fact of which I was previously unaware...
     
  14. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    i got it (and other gems)
    out of this book i read in high school

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    I'll check it out
     
  16. rube

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    gerarld ford biggest supporters ran all sectors of texas
    they ran the police, the mayors office, state troopers, the governors mansion and everything in between
    this happening where it happened was the only place it could happen and the entire situation from top to bottom be controlled by a small group of very powerful people
    thats about the surest way to pull off a conspiracy of this scale
    if it wasnt a conspiracy then it would be the biggest terrorist attack in the history of our nation

    but what would have happened to our country if news had broken that the commander in chief had been assassinated by terrorists within the US government?
    remember there was no Jack Bauer around to stop it back then
    the US might not survive, in fact it didnt survive as it had been before that
    the US became a new country that day

    anyway - we know who ran Texas at the time
    its easy to go back in history to see who was responsible for that terrorist attack
    but who runs NYC?
     
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    QE3 was the third attempt to stop the US Dollar from collapse
    then we put sanctions on Iran and stopped buying their oil
    so our ally India went to Iran and said that they would buy a billion barrels a day
    but Iran couldnt sell to India because India doesnt have enough US Dollars
    because the global oil market trades in US Dollars
    Iran wasnt going to take the money from India and it wasnt going to take the Euro
    so India responded by saying 'how bout gold, can we pay in gold'?
    Iran is now getting paid in real gold not in paper money from the US
    its now set the precedent for countries to stop using the US Dollar in their markets
    and this was all our own doing by trying to stop Iran from getting money

    our ally India is now friendlier than its ever been with its once enemy China
    and China is long time friends with another of its enemies the Pakistanis
    but both China and India need oil
    and if it means double crossing the US and forgiving past issues with its neighbors then so be it
    Africa is the goal
    Obama is going to launch a war in Africa to take out Kony
    but the real reason is African oil and other resources
    Africa is going to get raped once again
    but this time its the East doing the raping
    which will mean the end of the US Dollar as we know it

    BTW the Saudis have already jumped ship and joined them as well
    as have many other nations
    it will be easier to see whats going on in the coming weeks
    but shit is going to start hitting the fan in late summer
    but after this fall and winter there will be fundamental change
     
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    ... man I wish that were just another of Rube's rants...
    ...
    ... China has recently been creating a HUGE presence in eastern Africa harvesting all known mineral commodities in exchange for building their infrastructure... Umm I'll trade you... You give me all of your mineral wealth and in return I'll pave the roads to drive it away.... And the Africans are like "oh look, the nice Chinese man is helping us... ... them damned Americans only want to sell us guns...
     
  19. rube

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    why do you think the guy that filmed the Kony video went apeshit?
    he was given funding to make that video
    that video resulted in a huge backlash against Kony
    he wanted that of course
    to put pressure on Kony so the world would react
    but then maybe he realized that he was a pawn the whole time?
    that all the video has done is probably legitimized a war in Africa to the american people
    we will of course invade Africa to 'liberate' them from these warlords
    no mention of the fact that warlords currently still run the other countries we already 'liberated'...

    but going after Kony will be the excuse
    its competition with China for the natural resources
    there is lots of nuclear material in africa, still lots of diamonds and other precious minerals... as well as vast reserves of oil that not even the locals know about because they dont have the equipment to locate it like Exxon-Mobil does
    thats exactly how the war in vietnam was started... oil companies+CIA operators working with them looking for and finding oil off the shores of vietnam
    plus we didnt want to get behind on the heroin business either
    intelligence agencies operate more like organized crime syndicates than anything else
    down to the stuff they do business in
    drugs, weapons, turf war, racketeering, money laundering, conspiracy, etc...
     
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    i made a game like this when i was a kid
    i replaced all the cards with my own cards. changed all the names and stuff to reflect modern 80's era america
    but the only alteration i made to the name was to add Wall Street Edition under the big Monopoly sign in the middle
    it was all about technology companies since i was playing this in the mid 90's so it was obviously filled with anachronisms but the point was that i took out all the humor and made it stone cold real
    changed the rules as well
    each token represented a different class of person
    depending on their token the cards had different meanings
    basically it was rigged for the guy in the top hat to always win lol
    because thats how it is in real life
    mr monopoly wins
     
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