Dee Gordon

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  1. THINKBLUE

    THINKBLUE DSP Gigolo

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    So is he good now?
    What happens if Guerrero gets back and is tearing it up?
    Discuss
     
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    MZA MODERATOR Staff Member

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    Then Dee becomes the best pinch runner of all time.

    All time!
     
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    Either that or Hanley is done, and we move them. Maybe we make Guerrero SS, while Dee plays 2B, and when Seager is ready, he becomes 3B?

    Who knows? It's a good problem to have when you have a bunch of IF coming up who are supposed to be really good (Guerrero, Seager, Aru on defense.)
     
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    Personally, I don't think Dee is moving anywhere right now. Just bad baseball, man. You don't move a guy away with a breakthrough year like he's having, and take you're flat out best offensive weapon for an unproven player in the minors.
    I just can't see it. Especially not on the LAD. If they stay with a guy like Maholm, and others until they dried up and disappeared, I don't think they move a guy who is playing 2b like a champ for them.
    We really don't have a proper CF, and where is that phenom?
    Puig was a rare exception to LA thinking... and he may be on self destruct. I hope not, but the rampage behavior and apparent lack of some important basic skills are not that conducive to longevity. Or at least an injury free season it would seem.
    I could be wrong....I hope; we'll see I guess.
     
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    I think Uribe, Hanley, Dee and Guerrero can co-exist pretty easily in one IF. Dee should sit against all lefties, Hanley is always missing 15-30 games a season and Uribe should get at least one day a week off. Can easily find 400-500 PA's for everyone.
     
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    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=gordode01&year=2014&t=b

    Over the last 7 days he's hitting .167, over the last 14, .229. Not Ruthian. His value right now is that he's taking some walks and keeping his OBP respectable (not great, respectable). And of course the result is he gets steals and scores runs. If Guerrero delivers as promised, he shouldn't have much trouble chasing Dee. Production with power > production with little power.
     
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    By the time Guerrero is ready to play at the MLB level, well have a great gauge to see how good Gordon is. Guerrero won't play til next year probably so it's a long ways from this, but even now Guerrero could play vs. Lefties for Dee and some 3B
     
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    doyerfan MODERATOR Staff Member Moderator

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    Wait this is about Dee.

    He has the whole year to prove who he is. He's been damn good so far and will be an everyday 2B at this pace but keeping it is not a given
     
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    Que 'Pulp Fiction.'

    Let's not start suckin' each others dicks quite yet. Dee has been ADEQUATE so far. The stolen bases are a huge plus for him. Saying he has the whole year to prove who he is means he has the whole year to not fuck it up. I don't mean to hate on Dee but let's face it, he is not ELITE, he is average with plus speed. I wish him the best, but I don't think there is any doubt that Guerrero has the better bat.
     
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    ????

    Oh no!

    James Loney Goodson 2.0?

    :gah:
     
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    Dee should cross train in 3b and lf.
    Makes for great utility guy if he loses main gig.
    chone figgins type
     
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    Dee Gordon does not walk nearly enough for a leadoff hitter
     
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    He's 7th in the MLB in WAR for 2B, on pace for a 5 win season, and should steal over 80 bases. He has not been adequate at all, he's been great. Not saying that will continue, but calling his season thus far "adequate" is selling him way, way short.
     
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    dee has been a very pleasant surprise thus far :dee:
     
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    racist
     
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    :laff:
     
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    His current WAR is 1.6, I don't get how that equates to 'on pace for a 5 win season', but whatever. You call him great, I call him adequate. Take away the steals (which would happen if the OBP drops) and he's not much better than average. I'll go as far as 'pretty good', but 'great' is a leap of faith. "Great" puts him on par with HOF guys. I'm not there yet.
     
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    Ummm, you completely twisted my words. You said he's been adequate THIS SEASON, to which I responded no he hasn't. I never said that he's great. I said he's been great thus far in 2014. For all I know he could be in the minors again by August, but that was never what I addressed in your post.

     
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    All I'm saying is that offensively, Guerrero is much better.
     
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    He has not been adequate at all, he's been great.


    I obviously have a comprehension problem.

    o_O
     

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