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    MLB icons dominate in Franchise Four voting
    Ryan leading on three teams; Aaron, Mays, Koufax, Seaver pacing living player vote


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    By Mark Newman / MLB.com | 1:04 PM ET
    Voting continues through May 8 in Major League Baseball's Franchise Fourcampaign, which nears the halfway point with more than 10.2 million votes cast so far and some surprises among the list of leaders announced by MLB on Wednesday.

    Go to MLB.com/FranchiseFour to help determine the most impactful players who best represent each Major League franchise and several other significant categories in the sport's history. Winners will be announced during pregame ceremonies before the 86th All-Star Game on July 14 at Great American Ball Park in Cincinnati on FOX.

    All-time strikeout leader Nolan Ryan is among the leaders on three teams -- the Angels (ranking first), Astros (third) and Rangers (second). The only other players to appear on multiple club Franchise Fours are Vladimir Guerrero (Washington Nationals/Montreal Expos and Angels), and Randy Johnson (Mariners and D-backs).

    Hall of Famers Hank Aaron, Willie Mays, Sandy Koufax and Tom Seaver currently lead in the Greatest Living Players category. Barry Bonds, Johnny Bench, Rickey Henderson and Pedro Martinez are the other four choices in that category.

    Seven clubs have only Hall of Famers among their four leaders: Orioles (Cal Ripken Jr., Brooks Robinson, Jim Palmer and Frank Robinson), Cubs (Ernie Banks, Ryne Sandberg, Ron Santo and Billly Williams), Dodgers (Koufax, Jackie Robinson, Duke Snider and Don Drysdale), Yankees (Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Mickey Mantle and Joe DiMaggio), A's (Henderson, Dennis Eckersley, Jimmie Foxx and Reggie Jackson), Pirates (Roberto Clemente, Willie Stargell, Honus Wagner and Bill Mazeroski) and Cardinals (Stan Musial, Bob Gibson, Lou Brock and Ozzie Smith).

    The Yankees' list is so deep, even Yogi Berra and his World Series 10 rings can't crack it so far. And whatever happened to Derek Jeter winning every online voting competition possible? Is it really that long ago that he said goodbye to fans at Yankee Stadium with a walk-off hit?

    Evan Longoria is the only active player who is the No. 1 choice so far on a franchise, with Tampa Bay, and he is one of 12 active players who appear among the leaders and remain with the club they represent. Others include Adrian Beltre of the Rangers, Miguel Cabrera of the Tigers, Paul Goldschmidt of the D-backs, Felix Hernandez of the Mariners, Buster Poseyof the Giants, David Ortiz of the Red Sox, Giancarlo Stanton of the Marlins, Mike Trout of the Angels, Troy Tulowitzki of the Rockies, Chase Utley of the Phillies and David Wright of the Mets.

    How much stock do you put in winning rings? Speaking of the Mets, support is curiously limited so far for the club's last World Series champion. Gary Carter, John Franco, Dwight Gooden and Darryl Strawberry are all trailing in the vote so far, as that club's leaders include Seaver, Mike Piazza, Wright and Keith Hernandez (the only 1986 nominee in their top four).

    One of the big surprises may be Atlanta, where Tom Glavine and John Smoltz are on the outside looking in. The Franchise Four at this point is Aaron, Chipper Jones, Greg Maddux and Warren Spahn. There are many club examples where the choices almost seem impossible.

    Satchel Paige, Josh Gibson, Cool Papa Bell and Buck O'Neil are the leaders in the greatest Negro League Players category.

    Eight players were selected based on the recommendations of a blue-ribbon panel, in consultation with the 30 clubs. The panel was asked to identify "the most impactful players who best represent the history of each franchise (or special category)" for the ballot.

    Panelists include MLB official historian John Thorn and representatives from MLB's official statistician, Elias Sports Bureau; MLB.com; MLB Network; and the Baseball Writers' Association of America. In addition to balloting for the 30 franchises and the greatest living players and Negro Leaguers, voting also continues to determine the sport's greatest Pioneers, encompassing players whose careers began more than a century ago.

    An additional write-in option is available to fans on the ballot, which also can be accessed on mobile devices.

    Mark Newman is enterprise editor of MLB.com. Read and join other baseball fans on his MLB.com community blog. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
     
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    I would seriously like to know who in the Hell said Barry ain'tshit Bonds one of the greatest living players... The man lost all that shit with his Steriods/Peds stuff... If I can seat here and discredit Mark McGwire then that ass hat is in the same boat.. The man gave up his Hall Of Fame credentials for the hype that Mark and Sammy Sosa were getting. Bonds was a great player but how much of that do we know is true ability..

    I hate this guy with a passion if they were to ever elect him into the HOF I would not give a shit about it anymore because it would be tainted..

    Those assholes that took all that stuff and beat those home run records, have forever tarnish those records to where they don't mean shit anymore. Hopefully one day there might be someone to beat them or beat the numbers that still stand as true numbers..

    Good Lord this gets me fired up more then anything..... Bonds please what a damn joke!!!
     
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    there should forever be an asterisk attached to the accomplishments by any/all juicers
    palmeiro, clemens, bonds, mcgwire, sosa, et al were great players
    but it is impossible to quantify what numbers were legitimate vs. augmented
    and if i were a giants fan [besides killing myself] i would not want a known cheater being the face of my franchise
    willie mays should be the one and only face of that team
     
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    I loved when McGwire was with the Cards but him cheating the game just really soured me on him.. I would still watch him today but man the records they have ruined are just sad for Baseball and Fans. I tell ya what Irish you are right and I think most Giant Fans don't care about that guy at all.
     
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    fortunately both our organizations have plenty of great players/people to choose from
     
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    True story..
     

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