DODGERS Grade the Nerds

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Grade the Nerds

Poll closed Nov 5, 2016.
  1. A

    6 vote(s)
    16.2%
  2. B

    16 vote(s)
    43.2%
  3. C

    3 vote(s)
    8.1%
  4. D

    5 vote(s)
    13.5%
  5. F

    7 vote(s)
    18.9%
  1. carolinabluedodger

    carolinabluedodger DSP Legend

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    Maybe not, but you should give them credit for having the foresight to put the depth in place to overcome record amount of injuries and somehow be leading the division at this time.
     
  2. carolinabluedodger

    carolinabluedodger DSP Legend

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    I'm guessing in debt up to our ass and not much better off in the standings, with not nearly the amount of options that are available now.

    Just a guess.

    :shrug:
     
  3. darth550

    darth550 Baba Yaga

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    Nice guess, but you'd be wrong.
     
  4. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    Their job isn't to get us a ring.
    But to create a team that can be in a position to win a ring.
    This team is in first place and getting in position.
    The players win rings.
     
  5. darth550

    darth550 Baba Yaga

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    But, by the same token, the wrong players lose them too.
     
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  6. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    There is no such thing as the 'wrong' players if those players get you to where you need to be.
    If they win or lose is not the judge. 29 other teams dont win the world series but that doesnt mean the GM didnt do his job for all those teams.
    A GM is supposed to fill a roster with talented players as well as create organization depth so that the Manager he hires has the most weapons to go out there and win a bunch of battles.
    If the GM does his job and the Manager does his job and the players do their job then they have won the war/fought the good fight.
    Nobody is perfect. No team has every one of their good players perform greatly all year. No manager goes an entire year without making a few huge fuckups. And no GM makes perfect trades/signings every time out.
    But on the whole this FO has put this Manager in a position for him to coax these players... to win.
     
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  7. Bluezoo

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    My point to the post was the A+ grade...given that 29 teams don't win each year, which we have been part of for almost the same number of years, that grade is overboard, imo.
    If we don't win, all the depth, and Cubans, and multitude of Frankenstenian type pitchers, and Davey R., and genius labels, etc., will make them no better than any other FO who got us in the playoffs, then, using your premise.
    And Irish is well known as a very high grader; he must be reined in, lest the status quo you wrote about in another excellent post, continue ad infinitum.
    Obviously,we need a new, higher bar...
     
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  8. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    kinda agree
    and this is no way a slam on the good work the nerds have done
    but the highest grade should be an a
    the + should be reserved for at least getting to the ws
     
  9. Bluezoo

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    Yeah, they've done some for sure...I was only kidding you anyway about the grading.
    It's just that an ancient fan like me, living in a past century as I've been advised recently, is not so down with being " elite" and "in position" as the Big Kahuna of the baseball sport. Just not the chubby I'm looking for. But that's just me.
    Winning divisions ( if we do this year) multiple times, repeatedly, in the end, with no championship attached, means exactly what?
    Favorable comparisons to the likes of the Twins or Brewers or some other drudgery organization?
    For those that have a satisfactory answer ( for themselves, and smile about it), illustrates a stark example of the difference from fan to fan.
    I have none at all.
    The Nothing.
     
  10. rube

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    But this isnt the question.
    We are grading the job of a gm.
    And everyonr herr grades based on different crieria.
    Results dont matter for me in the equation. Like if the gm makes bad trades if he makes bad signings but we luck ouy by some dudes having career years and opponents chocking do we retroactively say the GM did a good job?
    No we dont.
    In 88 we relied on guys like Jeff Hamilton for the whole year.
    Claire who i loathed traded away pedro guerrero for tudor who sucked in the postseason and returned to the cardinals right away.
    Brought in dudes from the As who sucked all year like griffin and davis.
    But mike davis had that huge walk before and then gibson homered so claire got off the hook.
    But was claire a good GM because the team won the WS?
     
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    I think I accidentally cancelled out all my reverse jinxes and now reality with the pitching is no longer protected. Things are about to get bad.
     
  12. darth550

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    FUCKTARD pickups are really giving the team a boost.... unfortunately that team isn't the Dodgers.
     
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    "Gem" of a signing Kazmir is being examined before heading to the DL to extend the all time record, I'm sure, bc that's what the FUCKTARDS are best at. But, HAVE NO FEAR, Dan Johnson a 37-year-old former first baseman with ties to Friedman, has joined the Dodgers along with his devastating knuckleball!

    Halle-fucking-luja!

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/los-angeles-dodgers
     
  14. Bluezoo

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    The guy from Miami Vice?
    He's only 37?
    Shit, Melanie Griffith is way older than that...who knew?
     
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    They grabbed Toles from the scrapheap do they get any credit there lol. Knuckleballers can pitch until they are 40, VERY low risk and possible mediocre reward. I know seeing that move doesn't inspire enthusiasm.
     
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    I was wondering...with the credit for Toles...it's for his offense, right?
    Can it be half type credit?
    Still stuck on the Hill/Reddick trade credit...sure hope Hill is credit worthy.
     
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    I do like Toles, more than Taylor, even with his big game. I also like Segedin. He's like this year's Kike (on the cusp coming out of ST and later called up) but he didn't get to play nearly as much.
     
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    If only one of these (toles or segedin) could play SS then we wouldnt need Kike.
     
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    Kazmir is not really good.
    Kazmir is a big reason why we leading the division today.
    In a year where so many of our starters have gotten injured or cant make it past the 4th inning Kazmir has been reliable.
    He has been a good 5th pitcher. Not his fault that he sometimes has had to be the number 1 or 2.
     

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