NEWS/RUMORS/AROUND MLB Thread (Oct 2016 - Feb 2017)

That's where my very loose 10-15 million number came from. If we're at 205 with arb, a 2B and 40 man players, and those two get 35 taking us to 240, that's 50% over 195 so it's 45 times 2, or a 22.5 million tax, bringing us to a total 2017 commitment of 262.5.

If we stayed at ~230 and didn't sign Kenley, instead earmarking that money for say, since someone brought him up, Alex Colome, that's a 30% tax on the 35 million were over, so 12 million, leaving us at 242.5.

So my math was off by 5-10 million. Still a no brainer to me when you figure we'll drop below 237 next year with ease.

(Also my math may be wrong, I did it in my head on my phone, but the premise remains true)

 

Maybe there's a reason why they are a 75 win team.

 

We only had Dayton for 25 games, and Colome posted a 1.91 era with a 1.024 WHIP. The point I am trying to make is that finding 3 cheaper "Blanton" type of pitchers to round out the back of our bullie might be a better idea than one Jensen.

 

How about Alex Wood for closer. As a starter the 3rd time through the line-up is his major problem. Obviously he doesn't have electric stuff but what the hell lol. Colome does look intriguing, 1st year as a closer he was 37 for 41 on a bad team in the AL which is obviously a hitters league. Oh yeah he throws a fourseam fastball at 96 and a cutter at 89.

 

In some contexts, I agree with this thought process. There's no scenario where Jansen isn't incredibly valuable to our team though.

 

3 Blanton types are not worth one Kenley Jansen in October, that was made very clear by Andrew Miller, Aroldis Chapman and Kenley Jansen himself. The Cubs have two near elite relievers in Hector Rondon and Pedro Strop, and trusted neither in any big spots. One elite reliever is more valuable than 3 good ones.

 

I completely disagree with that. Every closer was a middle relief bullie guy that performed great and took over the reigns as the closer. There may be several middle relied guys on other teams that have a sub 2.00-ish era and a WHIP around 1.00 that could easily step into a closer roll. For the money, 3 of those guys could be well worth one Jensen. Also lets remember Jensen blew several key games in September.

 

Alex Wood should not be used in the bullpen. He was valuable as a starter last year and projects to be valuable again in the same role next year.

 

Something tells me we are going to know Kenley's decision today. Chapman set the market, and that was really the only thing he was waiting for.

Dodgers are no going to match the Marlins and the Nats are the only real other suitor, but with all the moves the Nats have already made, and the contracts they already have outstanding on SP, I don't think they have a realistic shot.

He might get a couple of more million from the Marlins, but I think he's gonna be in Miami next season.

 

Mark melancon just got paid and his stuff is far from electric. Hell Trevor Hoffman lacked electric stuff as well and he was one of the best closers of all time if not thee best. So give me a guy who can get 3 outs to close out a game and I'm happy.

 

Sure for a year or two that'd be fine
But giving Jansen 5 years at 16 per is ridiculous

Yeah they got billions but they didn't get billions by investing stupidly and throwing money around lmao. They gotta maximize value/profits so I understand the business side of it

Plus dudes a bitch anyway. Crying when we acquired Chapman. Then saying he doesn't know if he'll be here next season

Whatever. Well be fine

 

Sorry but you can't prove to me Jansen is worth 85-95 mil over 5 years. He's a great closer and I'd love to see him back but not at that price. He can go close 20 games for the Marlins if they are that hard up for a closer. Being a closer is more of a mental thing than a physical thing. I'm sure we can find another guy and groom him or sign/trade for a guy that isn't looking for 100 mil. Sign JT and get a 2B, shit I wouldn't even mind getting cutch if it makes sense to do so.

 

I'm not completely opposed to letting Jansen go, but Colome can't be the sole replacement. We need a legit relief ace somehow, Jansen seems like the easiest get.

 

Why aren't Turner and Dozier on the team yet?

 

Didn't Dozier say something to the effect that although flattered by the Dodger interest in him, he'd rather stay where he is?

 

Does he have a no-trade?

 

Turner is at Kenley's wedding in Curaco. So it may be a few days before hearing anything on either player. It also appears that it may not be a Dozier AND Turner thing, but a Turner or Dozier thing.

 

I don't think so, but look at the situation. The Twins are already asking for a lot in return, and with Dozier making these public statements about staying, Twins have no incentive to accept less and more to gain by asking for more.

Plus if you give up a lot to get someone who doesn't want to be in LA, is that worth it? When his contract ends, he's probably going to jet anyways.

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