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  1. Doughty8

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    ^I get that but it can happen to anyone but Matt is on the upswing again (led the league with 17HR after AS break).
     
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    yea, but that's also why you have to listen to offers and consider moving Kemp. the timing may never be better. it's not just that he could get hurt, or his play could regress again..if they wait another year he also becomes another year older at that point. i mean waiting until he gets hurt, ages a bit more, or sucks again to start looking to move him is quite possibly the worst scenario and that's just as big a gamble.

    it was easy for a lot of fans to say " sell high on Kemp when he gets healthy and on track " back when he was struggling last year because people were just disappointed in him and ready to move on, but it's a different story when the time comes to strike while the iron is hot. if Seattle offers Iwakuma and to take on 100% of Kemp's contract..that 100M saved could go elsewhere and also open up other opportunies for guys..the kind of opportunity that Dee Gordon ran with last year. we have in-house options, but they could also use that 100M saved on a much younger Tomas, who can play both LF and 3B.

    they could possibly open it up in LF for SVS and Guerrero to compete for a starting gig in the corner as well. but of course Kemp could stay and hit 30HRs next year too. who knows? just sayin..we didn't know what to expect @ 2B this year and somebody stepped up. it can happen. and the year before last, all of our outfielders got hurt early and somebody stepped up then too. Iwakuma is extremely efficient. here's a guy who might give Greinke a run for the #2 title. you gotta take that offer into consideration..it's a pitching/defense era now.
     
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    agreed you always listen
    but imo you keep kemp
    one of the best hitters in baseball when he's right
    and like doughty said, he's definitely on the upswing
    and i don't think we'd get fair return on kemp as other teams might also take into account the concerns you mention
    just my :2cents:
     
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    back2back x 2 + 1 DSP Legend Damned

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    what's a fair return for a player with as much upside as he has downside and 100M left on his contract though? i mean it's give and take here.
     
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    maybe i shouldn't have said fair
    reasonable is probably better
    of course there's upside/downside potential
    and although i'm not necessarily saying we'll ever see the 2011 kemp again
    if you project his 2nd half to 162 games... .310/43HR/137RBI
    so, to that, i'm saying we probably couldn't expect a fair/reasonable return
     
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    what's a fair/reasonable return for Kemp? i really was looking for an example when i asked earlier.
     
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    not really sure tbh
    all i know is earlier i was watching mlb network and that asshat morosi suggested we trade kemp to texas for andrus straight up
    i wanted to reach through the tv and bkitch slap him :bitchslap:
     
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    Billy Butler to the A's. Leave it to their cheap ass owner David Glass to let their best players walk right after making it to the World Series.
     
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    Butler wasn't very good last year
     
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    trade proposal from billy ripken/mlb network...
    cueto to the dodgers for seager and svs
     
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    And the 4-5 years before that, he was pretty good, always above .285, .350+ OBP
     
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    FUCK FACE
     
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    I saw that too but they challenged him to make an audacious proposal and he obviously did!!

    On another note here is 1 guys opinion on Tomas:

    "I think he has a lot of natural talent, but he's not in the same category as an Abreu or a Puig, or probably even a Rusney Castillo," says Cuban baseball expert and author Peter Bjarkman. "I know a lot of money is going to be thrown at him. His agent [Jay Alou] is claiming he's the next Abreu. Everybody is going to claim that.

    "He's got a lot of raw power. He's got speed. He's a very undisciplined hitter at this point. In Cuba, he was frequently injured. A number of his seasons were cut short. If you look at his Cuba seasons, his power numbers weren't all that great largely due to the fact that he didn't play that many games and also doesn't have very good plate discipline.

    "He has a lot of power when he connects. He has a lot of potential. He's probably a guy who has to start in Double-A or Triple-A and play awhile. He's not a guy I'd throw $90 million at, but some club will do that. You're not going to see another Abreu right away. Puig, either."
     
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    I know it would never happen but I wish money really was unlimited and we were in on Max Scherzer. Saying, fuck it: best rotation in history argument.

    And a great option to slide in #2 in case they can't or don't want to re-sign Greinke after he probably opts out
     
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    i thought about that yesterday..Hanley did say he'd be open to moving to LF. i'd still deal for Alexei and upgrade defensively @ SS though..the dude plays 150 games a year. we could use that kind of consistency in the infield. they could go ahead and just make it known that Hanley is done in the infield. i still wouldn't feel great about Hanley in LF, but at least the backup situation there is proven with SVS.

    but at that point, if it did happen, they could then deal Kemp to whomever loses out on Cruz..Baltimore or Seattle. go with a Hanley in LF, Joc in CF, Puig in RF set. " outfielder Hanley " probably gets a 2 or 3yr deal though.
     
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    we already have too may outfielders
    being open to play LF is a far cry from being able to do so
    imo, hanley is just saying the right things to increase his value on the open market
    no way he'd say these things if he were still under contract
    OF priority should be kemp/puig/joc... and then everyone else
    the carl/dre saga is getting really tired
    eat some cash and deal them for whatever you can get... or just fucken release them
    comes a point/time where you have to suck it up and take your medicine (thanks ned)
    the longer we hold onto them, the longer it creates disharmony in the clubhouse and limits us moving forward
    so...
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    :sobbing:
    Other than LA, retirement for Haren?
    Updated: November 19, 2014, 6:27 PM ET
    By Mark Saxon | ESPNLosAngeles.com
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    LOS ANGELES -- Pitcher Dan Haren said Wednesday that he likely would walk away from baseball -- and leave $10 million in pretax income on the table -- if the Los Angeles Dodgers trade him to a team other than one of his former clubs, the Angels.

    Haren's 2015 option with the Dodgers kicked in when he reached the 180-innings mark in September.

    "My signing with the Dodgers last year and my decision to exercise my player option were based on my desire to play in Southern California near my family," Haren told ESPN in an email. "I had other opportunities, but at this point in my career, I have no interest in playing in a city away from my family."

    Haren's name surfaced in trade discussions recently, according to a CBSSports.com report.

    Haren made little secret of how difficult it was to be away from his family during the 2013 season, when he pitched for the Washington Nationals. A native of West Covina, California, and a product of Pepperdine, Haren and his family now live in Orange County.

    Haren, 34, went 13-11 with a 4.02 ERA and, after a midseason slump, proved to be a reliable No. 4 starter as the Dodgers were sewing up their second straight NL West title, so it's unclear why the Dodgers would look to move him unless, contrary to what they're saying publicly, they simply want to dump salaries. The Dodgers have no obvious replacements who would come from the minor leagues and, if anything, it was assumed they were looking to add a starting pitcher in free agency.

    Haren does not have a no-trade clause, but then again, judging from what he's saying, compelling him to pitch somewhere he doesn't want to be would be a tall order.​

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    Dodgers should just trade him to like the Astros and eat the money, then he retires and traded voided, right?
     
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