NEWS/RUMORS Thread

wait, so in your previous post you said that all i can point to is his K/9 dip..and now you have a problem with me mentioning his command problem from this past post season?..which was actually the very 1st point i made in this back and forth. the same thing that media heads are reporting. i'm not even amazed at your shiftiness at this point. again, this is one of the issues that's come up in regards to his market. don't shoot the messenger.

really?

..going forward..as in " projecting " where the 33yr old is heading based on his most recent struggles. yes.

regular season. the command didn't hold up for the 33yr old with heavy mileage in the 2014 post season.

no, that's not all i'm talking about. you're either having some sort of mental disconnect or you just wanna argue. his K/9 has dipped in successive regular seasons. a 40 K drop over two seasons.

the latter matters for a 33yr old. or do you think he's Nolan Ryan? i've pointed to more than a handful of games. and it's not even just me. he has no deal right now because reportedly teams have questions about the direction he's headed in with both his power numbers taking a dip and command problems in October.

he's asking for #1 starter money over 5yrs..25M per. personally, i'd be hard-pressed to give him #2 starter money over 3yrs. it'd 1) depend heavily on the confidence i have in my #4 starter and 2) depend on the kind of money we're working with as an org because shelving Shields' ass come post season and giving him a bullpen role would definitely be in play. you simply cannot start this man in the post season with any sort of confidence. i could see him getting 3yrs/70M in the overpay. he's really only worth about 3yrs/58-60M.

i agree with this. always have. however, his history can also be seen as a negative..the workload of the " workhorse " is mounting. again, who wants be driving the car when the wheel blows?

 

funny enough, half the GMs in the league are currently dispelling your myth based on Shields getting 100M.

if he wants his reg-season BB/9 to stay that way, re-signing with one of the greatest defensive teams i've ever seen in my life may help with that.

 

so now Gomes is off the board along with Aoki and Rasmus. that still leaves quite a bit of OF options through both free agency and trade. Ludwick and Ichiro on the market and pretty much any of Boston's available outfielders are better options than Ethier. so we still wait for the market to die down..even moreso.

nothing came of the talks between the nerds and the Orioles a couple weeks back. maybe Ethier really will get moved a handful of days before spring training starts.

 

Someone offered him that, he said no because he didn't want to play for them. and WTF does defense have to do with the amount of guys he walked?

 

allegedly. basically a myth at this point.

if you don't know that then there's no need in us going on here.

 

• A group of South Korean investors are talking with the Dodgers about buying a minority stake of the franchise, Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times reports. The news was originally reported by two South Korean newspapers, one of which (the Korea Joongang Daily) reports that the discussed terms were $370MM for 20 percent of the team. A source with knowledge of the talks told Shaikin there is a “zero” chance the Dodgers’ ownership group would give up control of the team in these negotiations.

 

Defense has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of batters any pitcher walks.

 

except you certainly can pitch to contact when a great defense is behind you.

 

so? Not pitching to contact means the pitcher is trying to strike the batter out, not walk the batter.

 

are you gonna finish your point there and make that make any sense to what we're talking about with Shields?

 

http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-investors-20150123-story.html
Guggenheim Baseball Management bought the Dodgers for $2.15 billion in 2012. It is possible the funds from the sale of a minority stake could help repay the $1.2-billion portion taken from Guggenheim Partners insurance funds controlled by Walter, or could provide additional capital for club operations.

The Dodgers' player payroll next season is an estimated $263 million, according to Yahoo Sports — more than $50 million higher than the team with the second-highest payroll, the New York Yankees.

The Korea Joongang Daily, one of two South Korean newspapers that first reported the talks, said the investment group hoped to buy 20% of the Dodgers for about $370 million, which would value the Dodgers at $1.85 billion. Boehly told the Los Angeles Times in December 2012 that Guggenheim Baseball valued the Dodgers at $3 billion.

Walter did not respond to a message. Dodgers President Stan Kasten declined to confirm whether the team was in talks about the sale of a minority stake and declined to discuss why such a move would be considered.

 

Rumors has it that Mark Walters borrowed money from insurance funds controlled by his company to purchase the Dodgers with for over 2.1 billion dollars. I have posted about this a couple of times. I am sure that tv contract related subscriptions will be resolved in the next week or so and any money made from selling shares of the team will be used to sign high priced free agents and keep us with an elite payroll. Right? No salary dumping for 2016 as who knows when repayments need to begin but surely not then and as we know from the McCourt bankruptcy debacle guaranteed contracts are just that right so the money from Time Warner is nothing to be concerned about, right? Please assure us all is well and money is no issue and Bill Shaikin and his info is way off base. We do have a virtual unlimited checkbook and all is well right? Please assure us.

 

where did you hear that the TV situation would be resolved this week?

 

Cynicism and satire ahead of someone posting and rejecting any thought of problems in La La land. If anyone remembers I was initially a big fan of Ownership and their business model. It was a great model but now may be for shit. Count me cynical but my thinking of late is to out of the box and abnormal for this forum.

 

Ichiro off the board. going to the Marlins. weird, but ooooooK

 

the checkbook to have a 250M dollar payroll every year, or even take it up to 270-280M ( like 75-100M past the next team), plus pay the taxes with bad contracts fanning the flames? whether they do, or don't, it's unreasonable in all aspects. all terms. bad business on and off the field.

i don't know if you're cynical..you may have just been confused about the model.

 

Ummmmm buy AEG ? Didn't happen!
Fully functioning profitable tv contract highlighting Dodger baseball to the masses?

Will ownership succumb to the pressure to renegotiate the tv contract? Stay tuned?

Has the LA dodger footprint expanded or contracted!

 

From your perspective and if your link is accurate, did their business model call for selling approx 20% of the team at this point in time?

 

Dodgers are indeed a team that would need Papelbon's consent to push a trade through

 

oh and Ichiro signed for just 2M.