Discussion in 'DODGERS PAGE' started by irish, Nov 2, 2017.
Should’ve known better.
Taking Britton and his high salary for practically nothing would be a good move, and you wouldn’t have to pay Morrow
I have a feeling that the bullpen is going to be the focal point of the FO even more this year than over past off seasons. It really feels like they want to pair Jansen with a 1B Closer and are still going to look for another big arm on top of that as well. They had their asses saved by Maeda and Morrow becoming practically godlike in the playoffs and were IMO, one other trustworthy bullpen arm away from winning the whole thing. Pairing Jansen with a Britton, then somehow retaining Morrow would set the back 3 innings during the reg season, then Cingrani/Avilan for LOOGY and Maeda for the playoffs should be formidable.
Or we could pay Morrow, trade for Britton (put McCarthy and/or Ryu in the deal they are looking for starting pitching) and have the best pen in the game. Morrow/ Britton/Kenley would be amazing and we wouldn't have to stretch Kenley farther than he should
Despite Darvish's World Series debacle, Dodgers say they haven't given up on him
by Andy McCullough | Los Angeles Times — 8 hours ago
Farhan Zaidi went to work on Nov. 2. The sting of the day before, when the Dodgers fell in Game 7 of the World Series, had not yet faded, and it has not faded since. But the baseball calendar does not allow time to grieve the end of a season, and so Zaidi, the team’s general manager, pondered how to move forward.
During the immediate aftermath of the defeat to Houston, Zaidi gathered with Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman and the rest of the front office to conduct a post-mortem on the season past. The conclusions hinted at the challenge facing them this winter.
Was there anything they could have done differently?
“It seems really defiant to say ‘No,’” Zaidi said Monday at the general managers’ meetings at the Waldorf Astoria. “But we’re not done with the process. We have a full offseason ahead of us, and have plenty of time to go back and debate.”
During their first two winters, Friedman and Zaidi prioritized depth, elongating the string of talent throughout the organization by enhancing the margins of the roster. After the 2016 season, the team forked over $192 million to re-sign closer Kenley Jansen, third baseman Justin Turner and starting pitcher Rich Hill, while targeting improvements at second base and against left-handed pitching.
The scenario this winter is less daunting, but still complex: how to improve a 104-win team with a group of superstars already in place, a list of starting pitchers that stretches into double digits and a lineup of relatively inexpensive contributors who have contracts under team control.
“We just have a pretty well-balanced roster, where any improvements are going to likely have to come in the form of real-impact talent,” Zaidi said, “and that’s not easy to go after.”
An early reading of the free-agent market identifies few players who might meet this qualification, and most are pitchers. The Dodgers are closely monitoring the availability of Japanese two-way star Shohei Ohtani. They could revisit trade talks with Baltimore about All-Star reliever Zach Britton. They could pursue 2015 National League Cy Young Award winner Jake Arrieta. And despite a wretched performance in the World Series, Yu Darvish remains in consideration.
The Dodgers acquired Darvish last summer to bolster their rotation. After a rocky patch heading into the postseason, Darvish turned in a pair of quality starts in the first two rounds. However, in the World Series he collected 10 outs in two starts, contributing to losses in Game 3 and the decisive Game 7.
“I don’t know that the end really changes much,” Zaidi said. “It was always going to be a difficult [re-signing] for us to do, but we do have some interest.”
The price will dictate the likelihood of a reunion. The executives gathered here in Orlando peppered each other with questions about how much pitchers such as Darvish and Arrieta might earn in an offseason when so many teams are focused on improving their bullpens.
Even so, Darvish is still likely to fetch offers which exceed $100 million, and Friedman never has given out a contract that large.
This is where virtual reality would be awesome. Re-create the WS environment and see if he doesn't collapse.
Honestly, I still don't want to see Darvish in blue again. Idgaf what his numbers are. He failed us on the biggest stage we had in nearly three decades.
“Above average” vs “above above average” had me dying. You guys trying to revive fawlty towers?
Another playoff game blown by Kenley Jansen
Knowing how this front office thinks I’d be really surprised if they spent 40 million on the pen.
Olney now saying that the Marlins asking price for Stanton is perceived to be unrealistic. They want top prospects AND the new team to take on most of his contract.
This type of stuff relates to what they were talking about on MLB Radio yesterday. A couple of former FO guys said how they liked to circulate random rumors to fuck with reporters and this new generation of young FO guys love doing it just as much. Seems messed up since it’s their jobs, but it gives these GM’s something else to do at these meetings.
Sharks like to chum the waters to fuck with other sharks.
Confuses the fishes.
Except the fishes.
They just do the wave.
I could see them do it this season if it alleviates the glut of vet pitchers. Not saying they would sign another reliever for 5 yrs at $15M per. It would be Britton in a contract year and all indications are Morrow is looking somewhere in the 5-7M a year range. Having an upper echelon reliever over another #5 pitcher in the rotation is probably much more valuable to this team in its current construction and Morrow would probably revert to setup in a yr if all else holds up.
Just seems like negotiating 101 to me. Starting high and coming down is normal, starting low and coming up is never the case. We all know that Stanton will not be traded till mid January at best.
Assuming Britton is still upper echelon.
This is still a guy coming off a down year in a role notorious for it's volatility.
Why the failed signing of Andrew Miller still haunts to this day..well, that and the Chapman trade that went down the toilet.
O'Day pushed LAD to the side as well.
And of course it was Peter Angelo himself that blocked the Britton trade.
At this point I have about zero confidence that the pen will be addressed with Britton/Morrow, but I do have confidence that Friedman will pick up the pieces in the event that they strike out and still put together a top pen anyway.
I dunno. Something tells me Jeter is serious. He doesn’t want his 1st year as owner start with giving up his marquee player for anything other than a sweet deal....otherwise, just keep him. He could try to sell off everyone else and get prospects so long as Stanton’s HRs has a chance to bring people to the stadium...while the prospects mature.
Otherwise, he has a crappy cartoonish stadium no one will come to, even less than now.
Been saying that for a while. Jeter should keep Stanton. No deal is going to make complete sense for them because they have very little leverage. If it's damn near a guarantee that Yelich and Ozuna will fetch more on the trade market than Stanton, and that Stanton is the face of the org anyway..just trade Ozuna and Yelich.
Stanton doesn't want to be a part of another rebuilding effort in Miami, but I guess somebody should've have clued him in on how things are done in Miami..I'm pretty damn sure most of us knew a fire sale was coming before he even signed that contract.
Funny that had Stanton not signed that huge deal, I think he'd be an FA this winter.
Go to his salaries at the bottom and his service time is 6.118 after 2017.
Oh I believe Jeter IS serious, but the Marlins have a ton of holes to fill. So of course he is going to fill every hole he can fill IF he trades Stanton. IMO the Marlins need to fill Stanton's vacated spot, and try to upgrade 3b, SS, and 1b as well as SP. The Dodgers could fill most of those positions with ready or near ready MLB tallent in offering Alvarez(SP)/Verdugo(RF)/Lux(SS)/Rios(3b/1b)/Farmer(3b/c).
Yelich is not going anywhere......Ozuna is absolutely a possibility, however they would get significantly less for Ozuna than Stanton.
Sadly Miami might have been on a different trajectory had Fernandez not passed away.
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