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If the Dodgers could acquire one player at the deadline, who would you prefer?

  1. Machado

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  2. Front line starter (degrom, thor, et al)

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  1. darth550

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    LOL Probably, yeah.
    they did it to avoid his 22 million dollar vesting option for next year. They treated Varitek like shit too after all he gave them, if you remember
     
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    Dodgers 1B?
     
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    We already have Kemp. Let’s call up Skip Schumacher and Juan Uribe and get the band back together.
     
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    Maybe Jason Schmidt can throw a ball by now?
     
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    I read somewhere today that the upcoming Mets infield will be Adrian Gonzales at 1B, Jose Batista at 3B, Jose Reyes at SS and Hanley Ramirez at 2B. The all old latin stars infield.
     
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    He had something around a 120 OPS+ as recently as like 6 games ago, then went 0-20. I agree with you, something happened behind the scenes there. Very real scenario that he comes to Denver and bolsters that lineup. They are desperate for production at the 1B position.
     
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    schoenfield's spin fwiw...

    Why the Red Sox parted ways with Hanley Ramirez
    by David Schoenfield | ESPN Senior Writer — 2 hours ago
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    The Boston Red Sox decided to designate Hanley Ramirez for assignment, and the reason why can be summed up succinctly: He's expensive and not that good.

    The Red Sox still owe him about $15 million for the rest of the season (no team is going to pick up the salary), so they'll be eating that no matter what. But what they really want to avoid is paying Ramirez $22 million in 2019. That option vests if he receives 497 plate appearances this year, and with 195 already, he was on pace to pass that total.

    So, dump him now -- the Red Sox have seven days to trade him or release him -- and save $22 million next year. Makes sense.

    As for his production, that's no loss either. He's hitting .254/.313/.395. He ranked 117 out of 165 regulars with a .315 wOBA and, yes, the Diamondbacks aren't going to cut loose Paul Goldschmidt and his .314 wOBA. But the difference is, Ramirez also wasn't good in 2015 or 2017. In his four seasons with the Red Sox, he provided above-average offense in only 2016. You need more than that from a DH or first baseman.

    With Dustin Pedroia returning, there was no need for Ramirez, even as a depth piece. Mitch Moreland has been hitting well with a .311/.390/.612 line, plus he's the superior defender at first base. J.D. Martinez is the regular DH, and when he plays the outfield, you can slide Pedroia into the DH role. With Brock Holt and Eduardo Nunez as your utility guys, plus Blake Swihart and a backup catcher, there simply wasn't room to carry Ramirez anyway.

    Dumping Ramirez puts a wrap on two of the worst contracts in Red Sox history -- or anybody's history. After winning the 2013 World Series, the Red Sox fell to 71-91 in 2014. GM Ben Cherington's fix: Sign Ramirez (four years, $88 million guaranteed) to play left field and sign Pablo Sandoval (five years, $95 million guaranteed) to play third base. Ramirez had never played the outfield before and had been injured in three of the previous four seasons. Sandoval's weight issues made his future murky.

    The reasoning, in part, was both players were good contact hitters. At the time, all the rage was the importance of contact hitting in the postseason. The Giants and Royals had reached the World Series with high contact skills. The Cardinals had had success in the postseason. Ramirez and Sandoval had low strikeout rates and had hit well in the postseason. Of course, staring down those teams were the 2013 Red Sox, who were above the league average in strikeouts.

    The signings would cost Cherington his job. Ramirez was a complete disaster in left field, with minus-19 defensive runs saved in 2015 in just 92 games out there. He didn't hit either. Neither did Sandoval, as both produced sub-.300 OBPs that year. They combined for minus-2.2 WAR. The Red Sox finished 78-84, and Cherington was fired in August.

    Sandoval would play just three games in 2016 after injuring his shoulder. He didn't hit in 2017 and was released. The Red Sox will still owe him $18 million in 2019 (plus a $5 million buyout for 2020). For $183 million, the Red Sox received a combined minus-0.7 WAR.

    And everyone was wondering why teams were shying away from free agents last winter.

    The question is whether or not this could have been predicted. In part, yes. While you wouldn't have expected Ramirez's bat to decline so suddenly, the left-field experiment was an enormous risk, given few players had ever transitioned from infield to outfield at that age. Sandoval was obviously a red flag, especially in leaving his comfort zone in San Francisco. The Red Sox focused on one thing -- contact hitting -- and dismissed all the potential negatives.

    Luckily, they're the Red Sox. With the highest payroll in the game -- $66 million higher than the Yankees! -- they can afford mistakes. Still, it's not fun handing over $40 million to two players not on your roster.
     
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    Heaney pitching hiss ass off against the yankees
     
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    Only reason is because of his TJ and how we are being pussies with our studs
     
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    I really would love to see a team like the Jays, Orioles or Rays pick up Hanley's contract, bat him leadoff and play him every day so that contract vests and the Red Sox have to pay him for next year too.
     
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    espn is saying the vesting option is null/void if he's released
    • Ramirez has an option on his contract worth $22 million for 2019 that would vest if he reaches 497 plate appearances this season. He has 195 plate appearances so far this season. If the Red Sox release him, the vesting option will no longer be in play.
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    Boooooooo! He should fire his agent for that one.
     
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    Making quality starts for the 1st time since 2015
     
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    Think he was actually pretty lucky to get that contract
    To be terrible at your position and still have someone willing to sign you to 4/90 to play other positions you've never played before, Hanley can't complain too much
     
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    Rays send Colome to the M's
    Guess that sort of flew below the radar yesterday
     
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    True dat but how are we starving for pitching now
     
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    Aaron Judge with a recorded 100mph laser from RF to nail the runner by a toenail :whew:
     
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    lolz

    Red Sox president: Alex Cora called for Hanley Ramirez DFA
    by Torrey Hart | Yahoo Sports — 25 May 2018
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    Following the Boston Red Sox’s unexpected DFA of Hanley Ramirez Friday morning, Dave Dombrowski revealed in a news conference that it was manager Alex Cora who called for the move.

    According to Dombrowski, the team’s president of baseball operations, he was prepared to explore alternative options, but Cora was sure about the decision. He added that Cora advocated for more playing time for first baseman Mitch Moreland, and did not think Ramirez would be successful coming off the bench.

    Dombrowski addressed the media at Fenway Park Friday afternoon:
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    “[Cora] said, ‘This is something I’d recommend doing.’ And I said, ‘You sure?’ And he said, ‘Yeah,’ and went through some different reasons why,” Dombrowski explained. Dombrowski then asked Cora to meet with his coaching staff to make the final decision, which he did.

    No matter who made the decision, somehow, room had to be made for Dustin Pedroia to come off of the disabled list.

    The move was particularly surprising because Ramirez hadn’t played that poorly this year. He was healthy, and put up a .254/.313/.395 slash line as a first baseman and designated hitter. However, recently, he was in a 0-for-20 rut and was hitting .163/.200/.300 in the month of May. As Cora is said to have pointed out, Ramirez was not the absolute best option at first base.

    FINANCIAL MOTIVE?

    Of note is that Ramirez still has one more guaranteed year on his contract. He is in the final year of a 4-year, $88 million contract. Thus, the Red Sox will owe him $15 million no matter where he ends up this year. If he does sign with another team, that team would only owe him the league minimum of $545,000.

    Perhaps more importantly when it came to the DFA is that the team avoids an expensive fifth-year vesting option. If Ramirez had reached 1,050 plate appearances during the 2017 and 2018 seasons combined, the team would owe him an additional $22 million for 2019. He needed only 497 more plate appearances to trigger that option.

    We may never know for sure whether Cora’s reasoning took precedent over the financial ones, but either way, Dombrowski pardoned himself from the ordeal.​
     
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    The buck stops...uh...there.
     
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    • Dodgers GM Farhan Zaidi said Toles is getting close to starting a rehab assignment (or simply returning to games with Triple-A Oklahoma City) and could be playing games in a week to 10 days.
    http://dodgerblue.com/dodgers-injury-updates...
     
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    Good to hear.
     
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