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  1. Fall Winslow

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    Feels like enough clubs are lowballing these top guys now..maybe safe to say that MLB, as a whole, is looking to reset the market when it comes to these insane top tier contracts. The prospects of handing a guy a $600MM contract in 2021..can't believe they don't want to do that in a game where 1 player's dominance isn't nearly enough to field a good team. Owners taking control

    So what does Boras do? Wait
     
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    Mike Trout will get a half billion dollar contract for his life.
     
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    POTY.
     
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    I'm largely going off of the 2018 postseason, in particular the Brewers series, where the platooning seemed excessive and I couldn't find the data to support all of it either. There were several games where we burned our bench by the 7th inning with literal line changes. Whatever the reason though, that is a FO thing and not an ownership thing.

    FWIW I don't hate our FO. Not even close. But I don't think they are perfect either. Although they have been pretty killer with prospect trades.
     
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    "Waiting in the wings" sounds odd in mid-January. But I guess this is more Boras and Harper "waiting", like Fall suggested.
     
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    And he’d be the only one to deserve it
     
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    And suffers a career altering injury that turns him into s slightly above average player
     
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    I see a lot of antsy fans complaining about not signing Harper yet. But hasn't it been made pretty clear Machado signs first and then Harper? Let's be patient, all the moves look to have been made to accommodate BHarp. Let's get impatient after Machado signs and it's been a few days

    On another note... Can we back up the prospect brinx truck for Kluber? Stripling, Verdugo, Smith, ERios?
     
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    I don't have any reason to believe the Dodgers will sign Harper. They might go bargain hunting at the back end of the reliever market and might look to add some sort of cheap RH bat, but I'm not expecting more. In fact I'm expecting even less than what I just said.
     
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    I personally don't think Harper is worth what he's going to get. However, back to back WS busts! We gotta put all our chips in at this point. So lets drop the cash on Harper because he is an upgrade overall with a high ceiling (MVP). And lets move some of these kids for Kluber. Tired of waiting 31, 32, 33 i lost track of how many years
     
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    I'm antsy over the reports that the Dodgers are out on Harper, more than anything.
     
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    Waiting in the wings
    . I hope they're lemon pepper. Feels like I can remember a few A and B grades being handed out a few years back in regards to the performance of the FO/ownership. Personally, I've waffled between C and B over the years. They go out and have quality drafts, turn bums into valued assets, develop and graduate productive kids, make nice trades at the deadline..this is when I feel like the org deserves at least a B. I grade them tough. But then the end result comes in season-wise, followed by meh offseason moves in free agency and I can't help but mark them back down to a C, fair or not. But if they don't jump on Harper here, personally, I'm dropping them to a D grade. I don't know how you guys would grade them in the aftermath of another disappointment, but that's what it'd be for me. We need our Crime Dog McGriff in the middle of this 90's Braves shit. A HOF caliber hitter with staying power. I wouldn't understand for the life of me, continuing to depend on an aging Turner to do the heavy lifting offensively. They don't get Harper this year, they damn well better get Arenado next year to gear up for Turner's eventual slide. Turner's already showing cracks defensively. And Arenado plays with the passion and fire that many wanted from Machado, that aside from being the greatest defensive 3B I've seen with my own eyes.

    Arenado's passion and desire to win rivals that of Kersh, but Arenado's translates everyday because that's what he is. An everyday ball player. Arenado can just set a tone with an org that Kersh cannot. In fact, Kersh actually needs to tone it down. The all time great pitchers that have graced the mound, the majority of them were able to harness their fire, what the nature of the position calls for. Kersh is too damn amped. You watch those old performances of Madbum in the postseason and you'd think it was Spring Training, he's that relaxed. Kersh needs to relax and mature as a pitcher, crazy to say about a HOF, but it is what it is. And I get it, it's hard after you've choked this often, but it's time for his repertoire to expand and for his mind to be at ease. He's been around long enough. Does he need Mr. Miyagi? Wax on, wax off? Or maybe they just go get an older Kluber and hope that his quiet confidence can get them over the top since Kersh is essentially a crack addict in October mentally and emotionally. Drop the ping pong paddle and pick up a consistent change-up. Put together a change-up throwing tournament for charity instead of a ping pong tourney. I'm running out of ideas.
     
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    I want Harper at full max even if he isnt Mike Trout.
    Machado at near max even if he isnt Johnny Hustle.
    Only the best of the best deserve the max contracts.
    But the reality is that some guys with max level talent are not always perfect in other ways yet still get max contracts from teams trying to win.
    We need the best of the best we can get and not wait for Arenado or some other great player. All these guys are pretty even and each has weaknesses that guys like Mike Trout and maybe a handful of other near perfect players/persons don't have.
    The Dodgers need to roll the dice and make these two the faces of the franchise.
    Let all of our home grown players take the backseat. That is why Puig had to go. He gets too much shine and wont go with the program.
    Harper and Machado can be like LeBron and a Jimmy Butler or Anthony Davis.
    Seager/Bellinger/Joc etc... are the Ingrams/Kuzmas/Lonzos who have to become the third option and below because the top two guys are the big name FA the team went and bought.
    Which is why Machado and Harper would get the money spots in the lineup and Seager/Bellinger would help to set them up or bring them home.
     
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    My opinion on Harper has changed as the offseason went on. I heard an interview with the Nats hitting coach and they were talking about his struggles early last season. Apparently Harper's dad got sucked into the launch angle thing and tried to get Bryce on board. It was causing him all sorts of problems and Bryce was never feeling comfortable with the whole change. They switched him back around the ASB and he went back to fucking mashing again. I think we are going to see a big time contributor going forward and should be worth the deals we are hearing. The Dodgers especially look to have the financial flexibility to make it work down the line while not really having the pieces coming along that look to be major impacts. Ruiz, Verdugo and Lux all appear to be very good players, but not necessarily middle of the order bats. Harper would fit nicely along with Bellinger, Muncy and Seager as the big threats in the middle of the order.
     
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    Yeah, and Warren Buffet drives an old car and still lives in the same modest house he bought in the '50's.

    It's all about intent and accountability to the share holders. ;)
     
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    • The Yankees have landed Adam Ottavino on a 3 year deal... that bullpen is stacked and I like him a whole lot more in lower leverage situations.
    • The Yankees are closing in on a deal to move Sonny Gray according to Jon Heyman.
    • The new rumor is that there is growing industry expectation that the Manny Machado sweepstakes will now go into February as he is said to be nowhere close to an acceptable offer. If this were to happen, the belief is that Harper could delay until close to March which would drastically shake up the FA market and prices if it carried that long into spring training where it has shown to negatively impact player performance.
    • There are rumors of teams quietly lurking on Machado and Harper, with most eyes looking towards the Yankees and Dodgers. I would not be shocked if Manny and Bryce both pass on Philly and the White Sox. One team that has some whispers about them is the Texas Rangers. They are way below(roughly $50M) their regular operating number and they have some big contracts + dead money coming off the books through the end of the 2020 season(Another $65M). With good young players already signed to team friendly long term deals and a lot of pre-arb kids, they could swoop in and make very intriguing offers to both of the major FA's. I could definitely see them lurking, especially with a new stadium on the way and their instate rivals on a roll.
    • Portland is really putting the pressure on MLB to consider them a viable candidate for expansion. They have announced the group of potential owners for what is supposed to also be a $1.3B privately financed stadium. I don't see relocation being on the table at this time since the league needs to expand to 32 teams anyway. The A's are moving along on their stadium deal, but the Rays have hit a major snag. I could see MLB allowing this Portland thing to gain steam in an effort to put the gun up to the heads of the A's, Rays and their cities to get a deal done. Once both stadium issues are resolved, I would expect an expansion announcement fairly quickly after that.
     
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    A market such as LA and our biggest name is a guy who many didn't want back (here anyway), and plays every five days. Yeah, Clayton was a superstar once, for sure. And I don't know if a decline and injuries necessarily takes that moniker away from a guy... Hebrews, please...doesn't LA, and it's fans deserve a Harper or Machado jersey out there every day out there on the field?
    Getting the Big One(s) available would be nice for once at the start of the year, instead of at the deadline as a rental. And a pretty shitty record for results doing that, too.
    I just know the spectacular cheapness (so far) is.going to come back and not only bite us on the ass, but rip us a new asshole. Everyone else sucks, so we don't need anyone? What about if everyone doesn't suck? Or 2020 or 21?
    You only get so many shots at it, then it's someone else's turn.
    We're using up our nine lives, methinks...
    Pussies.
    Twats.
    Finooks.
     
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    With the rumor that Machado's best offer is sub-$200 million, Harper might be better served to sign first.
     
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