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  1. irish

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    from a couple days ago
    brewers blogger on why they should stay away from grandal...

    Brewers need to stay away from Yasmani Grandal
    by Matthew Dewoskin | Fansided — 27 November 2018
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    The Milwaukee Brewers are looking to upgrade their current group of catchers, but they need to stay away from free agent Yasmani Grandal. Grandal is rated as one of the top free agents on the market this off season. The Milwaukee Brewers should look elsewhere to improve their situation at catcher. Grandal’s cost, potential performance, and issues in the playoffs make him a stay away. Let’s dig a little deeper...

    HOW DID GRANDAL PERFORM IN 2018?
    Grandal posted a 3.6 WAR for the Los Angeles Dodgers in 2018. He slashed .241/.349/.466 with 24 homers, 68 RBIs, and graded out positively behind the dish. He also struggled badly in the playoffs with a .138/.265/.276 slash line in 14 games. His defense was also an issue as he committed two errors, allowed three passed balls, and was behind the plate for three wild pitches. He only caught one of four attempted base stealers.

    HOW MUCH WILL GRANDAL COST?
    MLBTradeRumors.com projects Grandal to get a deal worth $64 million over four years. That’s more than Lorenzo Cain has remaining on a five-year deal he signed last year.

    WHY ISN’T GRANDAL WORTH THE INVESTMENT?
    First there’s his age. Grandal just turned 30, and a four-year deal at $64 million would pay him an average of $16 million per year until his age 34 season. How many 34-year old catchers can live up to a contract that large? Not many, and probably not Grandal. 2018 was the best season that Grandal has ever had. His 3.6 WAR is a career high by almost a full point. He’s closer to the 2.5-2.9 WAR player he’s been for most of his career, and expecting a repeat of his age-30 season is unlikely.​
     
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    Mariners are on the verge of sending Jean Segura to the Phillies for J.P. Crawford and other pieces. The writers are saying that the M’s have done a good job restocking their farm in all these trades, but the prospect guru’s that I follow are singing a very different tune about the matter. This run has taken the M’s from around the bottom of the prospect rankings to somewhere in the middle. I have a feeling that they’re going to look back at this offseason as a huge missed opportunity and a sizable setback for the organization.
     
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    Any interest in Kikuchi for me means they plan to use him out of the pen. He’s not likely better than any of our top 6 options and due to the honor thing that a lot of Japanese players live by, I don’t see him willingly coming to LA only to then push Maeda out. Maybe if they moved say Maeda, Wood and Stripling, could you see him being a starting option. I wouldn’t mind seeing him come out of the pen, as projections have him as a really good option there.
     
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    Still doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. They have a pretty barren farm and their best prospect is a legit star in Joey Bart, who just so happens to be a catcher. They are not just a single player away from competing and Realmuto only really offers a chance for even more of a setback by depleting that weak farm. I don’t think they have the pieces to land Realmuto and may just be involved to push the Dodgers asking price up as their new leadership is probably well aware of our FO is willing to give up to land him. Probably a pretty good indicator that we are fairly serious.
     
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    How can the Giants even push the asking price up when they have a lack of assets?
    I see this as purely wishing on a star. They did the same last offseason, made a couple big name moves and wished to sweet baby Jesus that it'd spark them. Sure, they didn't have Zaidi then, but he still doesn't have the ammo to be a real factor at the table
     
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    Only thing I can think of is, "hey, your rival is interested in this guy you really want and they're willing to give up a lot, better up that offer to get him." I don't think they have the pieces, just the name to maybe get a little more out of the offers.
     
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    Damn, they got the M's to take back Santana. M's are sending the bad Swarzak contract they just acquired from the Mets in return to Philly. Dipoto has acquired some interesting guys with rough contracts. Would not be shocked to see Bruce and Santana out in other deals where the M's eat a bunch of money. Still doing a bad job of landing anything more than mediocre pieces in return.

    Update: No Swarzak in the deal. Someone with a similar contract though.
     
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    As soon as they say " they're willing to give up a lot ", call that bluff since they don't have a lot to give. In fact, counter that bullshit by walking away from the table.

    We can bluff too..except our bluff would be backed by consecutive World Series berths, so we really don't need you MFs. Our bluff isn't really 100% bluff.
     
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    M's would probably be all over Kemp if they didn't have Nelly
    Segura takes SS in Philly, I guess Machado is out for them
     
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    Cruz is a FA. I do wonder if they could be a match for Seager potentially. He has played 2B and SS earlier in his career, so I wonder if he could be an option for 2B for us.
     
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    That'd be weird, although, I'd definitely feel better about Kyle at 2B over Corey. Kyle having more of the physical stature you'd expect a 2B to have. I know Corey at 2B may have never been on the table, but it's been talked about here.

    Kyle had a terrible season offensively, so now would probably be the time to get a 31 year old former all-star coming off a bad year for a reasonable price. Question is, is he going to be terrible offensively from here on out? I feel like this should also be mentioned..if the last 2 seasons are any indication, Kyle Seager's defense at 3B is now vastly better than Turner's. Maybe Turner should be moving to 2B in this scenario
     
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    I didn't realize Nelly Cruz was a FA, feels like he signed there a couple years ago
    There's a little built in camaraderie between Dee and Kemp, and the M's just pretty much picked Dee over Segura, so I wonder if the M's would jump on Kemp?
     
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    Kikuchi was posted this morning, teams can begin negotiations tomorrow.
     
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    I'd rather do a buy low on Seager and take a chance there than like a Kemp for Martin swap or something of that ilk. Seager also has a decent AAV for his potential output. He probably won't be that 5-6 WAR guy he was a couple years ago, but I would wager that he is likely still a 3 WAR guy for the remainder of his contract. Also, I wonder if this would help when Corey is up for a new contract.
     
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    I wouldn't mind it, so long as it's not the move of the offseason. We have no shortage of past their prime guys.

    I hadn't even given thought to Martin returning Lol
     
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    Rosenthal's morning piece had the Dodgers as a focal point, but it was mostly speculation with little to no substance. Here are some notes from that and other things going on:
    • The Dodgers are supposedly ready to go into the season with Barnes being their primary catcher and that is the way they have approached this offseason. The club feels that last year was more than likely a blip and he should be something in between what he was last year and the season before(which would more in line with projections). They feel the prices for marginal upgrades were not worth it and that they viewed Gomes as more of a split time option, not true starter. They are looking for reasonably priced back up options to him or a clear cut upgrade at the position and they feel that there is only one guy like that on the market(J.T. Realmuto). They are pursuing Realmuto strongly as they consider him a major upgrade and potentially worth dealing some of their catching depth over, otherwise they are willing to take a shot with Barnes this year and feel confident that they have a star on the way at catcher from the farm. Does make sense if they feel that the Gomes re-emergence was more of a blip than the usual. Don't forget, though Barnes was a mess at the plate last year, he was still regarded as one of the best defensive catchers in the league and that is not something to sneeze at when the position as a whole is so down.
    • He mentions that the Dodgers have way too much veteran depth at multiple fronts now and the club can't conceivably go into the season as built. Starting pitching alone is going to cause problems with 11 guys on the roster that started a game for the big club in the last two seasons(he didn't count Stewart, I am since the org fucked him up, but he seems to have righted the ship). They also have White, Gonsolin and May on the horizon. He thinks something big is coming, potentially two big deals since there is just so much there to work with.
    • The new report over the weekend was that the Mets have now entered the sweepstakes for Corey Kluber. The plan would be to move Syndergaard and use the prospect capital to land Kluber. This should be a GIANT red flag to anyone that has interest in the Mets co-ace.
    • Anthony Castrovince who covers the tribe thinks that it is only a matter of time before the Dodgers and Indians come together for a deal. The Dodgers have too much of what the Indians need to continue to be forces in the AL Central. The Mets rumored interest doesn't seem to be enough as they will likely need the Indians to take back salary and potentially lesser players for one of their front line starters(something the Indians do not want to do). He thinks that Verdugo will be the centerpiece for either Bauer or Kluber, though that seems less likely to me with Gomes no longer a part of the deal.
    • The Rockies have been said to be kicking the tires on every big name out there to capitalize on their big season and a likely weaker division, but they have been coming nowhere close with actually matching up.
    • It sounds like the Giants are already pulling Madison Bumgarner off the market. The packages that they were hearing early were nothing that they were interested in. His name will likely be floated again around the trade deadline.
    • It sounds like another division superstar may also be close to getting pulled from the market. Paul Goldschmidt is too not drawing much suitable interest for the D'Backs to be willing to move him. The Astros are said to be the only team really pursuing him and the D'Backs may choose to hold onto him and move him at the deadline if they have to.
    • The Mariners fire sale is expected to move onto Kyle Seager next. He is coming off of a down couple of years, but not far removed from being a legit stud. They still have high salary guys Jay Bruce, Carlos Santana, Dee Gordon and Mike Leake whom they all are likely to try and trade.
    • LOL, Trevor Bauer got his finger stuck in a drone blade again. I swear, if we trade for this guy....
     
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    :garbage: Martin no way Jose
     
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    better than keeping him as a lame duck for 19 i guess
    maybe like puig he'll mature
     
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    At least now I know we won’t win a World Series in the next four years on his genius moves. Lol. So let’s hope the bring players that can perform instead of choking
     
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