DODGERS NEWS/RUMORS thread

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  1. ColoradoKidWitGame

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    It really doesn't. The only thing I can think of is that they feel Taylor is trending in the wrong direction, but they see he still has some trade value and are trying to do something about it now. Otherwise, yeah it does not make a whole lot of sense.
     
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    Let’s conservatively say Marwin gets 4/52. Would you rather have Marwin or Craig Kimbrel?
     
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    Yeah. Or if Cleveland/Miami were like “We’ll only deal you Kluber/Realmuto if Taylor is in the deal”
     
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    I don't want either for 4/52
    Certainly not the reliever
     
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    I'd say 180 Ks is the wrong direction.
     
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    I’d pay Kimbrel that tomorrow
     
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    If Kenley's performance was up to par, maybe. The way Kimbrel looked this past season, combined with the money Kenley's already pulling in from the pen, that'd be too much of a gamble. Especially if I'm Friedman and I fix bullpens in my sleep
     
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    This actually makes a good bit of sense, Corey Kluber for example only has a tax number of $7.7M for 2019 (Bauer has an arb projection of $10.75M, which will be his tax number) if Alex Wood (or Puig) were to be going the other way (among other pieces), it would pretty much be a wash.
     
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    Building on the above, in a hypothetical world where Wood, Puig & Hill exit, Kluber & Kikuchi (using the contract from mlbtr) enter, that's like ~$24M saved in tax dollars, making Bryce a tight fit but feasible.
     
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    I have been wanting us to make something like this.
    Like you said, each club has their own metric that values what they see as valuable.
    So do we.
     
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    Trading Puig might be a good idea but a decade down the line when he is retiring as a Texas Ranger with a surebound HOF career we will feel a little twinge.
     
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    file under things that should never collide in the same sentence
     
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    • The Dodgers look to be a driving force in the outfield market, Olney observes on Twitter. Not only could the Dodgers trade any of Yasiel Puig, Matt Kemp or Joc Pederson and pursue Bryce Harper, Olney notes, but he also connects them to free-agent center fielder A.J. Pollock. Needless to say, of Puig, Kemp and Pederson, the latter would warrant the highest return in a trade. The soon-to-be 27-year-old Pederson’s coming off the most effective season of the trio and is the only one controllable beyond 2019. Further, he’s projected to earn an eminently reasonable $4.7MM next year, his penultimate season of arbitration eligibility.
    • The Dodgers are also “all in” on the catcher market, as are the Astros and Mets, Olney reports. Any of those teams could find its answer with Pittsburgh’s Francisco Cervelli, for whom the Pirates are willing to consider offers, according to Olney. Cervelli is coming off an impressive 2018, but as a soon-to-be 33-year-old who’s expensive ($11.5MM), down to his last season of team control and has a startling history of concussions, the low-budget Pirates may be willing to go in another direction.
     
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    We should just trade with the Royals. Give them Verdugo, Toles, Wood, Barnes and Brock for Whit and Salvy.
    Paying a lot of young guys for two old guys but it puts the team closer to win now mode without having to really break the bank for Realmuto. Whit is under cheap control for years which helps with the Harper deal. That is a solid team with a lot less need of platoon.

    2B: Merrifield
    LF: Harper
    SS: Seager
    3B: Turner
    1B: Muncy
    CF: Bellinger
    RF: Puig
    C : Perez
    DH: Joc, Taylor, Kike, Freese, Farmer

    You still have assets that you can trade if you want to upgrade the staff.
     
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    When Adrian Beltre left a lot of folks thought that his big year with the Dodgers was a fluke or steroids and that he would return to being an inconsistent player like he had for most of his career.
    Puig may mature into a Beltre type career. He really loves playing baseball.
     
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    "Dodgers super-utility man Chris Taylor had a DRC+ of 100 last season, which means he was a league-average hitter. Taylor’s teammate, Max Muncy, had a DRC+ of 150 during the same season; his performance was 50 percent better than league average. That makes him one of the best hitters of the 2018 season on a rate basis. (Only a handful of hitters posted better marks, and all of them played in the American League.)


    On the other hand, Athletics catcher Jonathan Lucroy had a DRC+ of 80, which is lower than both Taylor and Muncy. His DRC+ indicates that he was 20 percent worse than league average over his season. It’s that simple! The bigger the number, the more valuable the hitter’s performance should have been."

    I like this DRC+ thing, they have done a good job. They are taking the value of the at bat into equation as well as the outcome.
    People want to trade Muncy because his value is super high. That is weird thinking to me. What if he is not a fluke?
    He was essentially the best hitter in the NL last year. He is not spectacular at 1B but for that kind of hitting he is fine.
    Bellinger needs to accept that he is a an OF and a very good one too.

    What I dont line is that league average is 100 and superstar is 140.
    They could have scaled it and made it familiar to the video game playing generations.
    League average can be a 70 a star at 80 and a superstar a 90 and above with very few players passing 99.
    Then it pairs with OPS somewhat at the top end where a guy with a .900 OPS is a superstar but if he surpasses .999 then wow what a season for a HOF type.
     
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    imo realmuto's price tag is probably going to be unjustly high
    channeling my inner dave/rube [because i'm f'n bored], so the proposals are probably less than perfect...
    • dump wood, puig and a minor leaguer on pitt for cervelli
    • trade joc, verdugo or taylor, will smith for kluber
    • sign harper

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    OPS hitters over .999 = Trout, Betts, JD, Yelich making 4 Super Stars. Muncy was very close followed by Ramirez, Arenado and Bregman very far behind.
    DRC+ hitters over 150 = Trout, Betts, JD, Ramirez and Muncy making 5 superstars. With Yelich, Turner and Arenado not too far behind.
     
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    poor analogy imo
    in beltre's first six seasons he slashed .262/.320/.428
    then .334/.388/.629 in his (then) career year
    and then back to .266/.317/.442 the next five
    should we really have to wait another 5-6 years to see if puig develops into an hof player?
    beltre was also on 25 when he had his first big year
    puig is already 28 and still routinely exhibits immaturity in rf and (especially) on the basepaths

    puig is more likely to be raul mondesi 2.0 than beltre 2.0
    if he develops into an all time great it won't be here
     
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