DODGERS NEWS/RUMORS Thread

Dodger Ownership is just a fucking joke. All talk and no action. Just mo money mo money mo money and to the fans in Dodger land Homey don’t play that with a big FU.

 

Jerking us off:lolwhoa:

 

If there was an award for “most trade rumors” we’d win every year.

 

Don't expect the Dodgers to be in on him. Not a lot of money to spend and we are supposedly in on one of the top players already for the upcoming year.

 

He's not the Cuban that interests me anyways. I'd wait for Suzuki.

 

About the only thing we win these days.

 

Betts for a non top prospect and a salary dump is fine with me. Maybe David Price can pitch for the Dodgers Fortnight team and run their Twitter

 

It will be interesting to see how Japanese players approach the Dodgers and their FO in the years ahead. There is a lot made about honor with them and the way the Dodgers have treated Maeda the last couple years COULD have a negative impact on potential players coming in. Now, the Dodgers have notably tried to alter his contract so that his relief bonuses could match his starter ones, but it is something to keep an eye on since Kenta is said to be somewhat unhappy with the situation. Not saying this would happen here as the FO is very involved in scouting overseas, but these players have made decisions for odder reasons. i.e. there was a rumor that either Kikuchi or Ohtani would not sign anywhere that a former Japanese star was already playing to not overshadow them.

 

LOL of course the Red Sox would do that salary dump. But the Dodgers, who won’t pay up $260 million for 7-8 years of an elite player are now going to pay $120 million for 1-year of an elite player and 3 years of a 1 WAR guy? I’m guessing our FO is nowhere close to taking on all that salary, because if they are their dumb as rocks.

I can only picture Kershaw and Price eating up $65 million/ year to shore up the backend of our rotation.

 

To prove that ownership is not afraid to add high amounts of payroll, they will take on more terrible contracts to buy a great player without having to give up the prospect capital while showing in the process that they have no understanding for how free agency is supposed to work.

 

Dodgers brass defends lack of offseason moves amid fan frustration
Stan Kasten, the Dodgers president, chief executive and part owner, took time to explain the Dodgers’ motivations and actions this offseason.
by Bill Plaschke | Los Angeles Times — 5 January 2020

The boos have finally gone deep.

This Dodgers fans’ annual offseason frustration, which usually swirls around the dugout of Dave Roberts or desk of Andrew Friedman, has soared beyond both this winter and landed loudly and directly in the loftiest of chairs

The blame has reached ownership. The October-worn fingers are being pointed at Guggenheim Baseball Management.

After watching the lucrative franchise again fail to spend the money to land a fate-altering free agent — this time Gerrit Cole — many fans across several platforms openly wonder how badly Mark Walter and his partners want to win a World Series.

Fans want to know why the team is not spending more of the $8.35 billion it’s getting in that botched TV contract that has resulted in the Dodgers going unseen in more than half of Los Angeles households.

Many fans who continue to set Dodgers attendance records don’t feel like their incredible loyalty is being rewarded with a commensurate ownership commitment, and they want to know why.

So I phoned Stan Kasten and asked him.

Kasten is the Dodgers president, part-owner and Guggenheim’s on-site boss. He is the biggest hammer in the building, the loudest voice in the room, and, for better or worse, the symbol of every ownership decision.

I gave him an opportunity to address Dodgers fans’ concerns about ownership, and he emphatically embraced it.

“The L.A. Times’ characterization that everyone hates us has always been childish, superficial and wrong,” Kasten said of his ownership group.

OK, so how does he define success? Does he believe seven division championships without a World Series championship is success?

“There are metrics in business that are mostly private that we look at, and I’d say we feel successful there,” he said. “But there’s no question that all of us who are competitive, from every owner that has a piece of the team to the junior people in the front office, we’re laser-focused on winning the World Series. We really, we really need that.”

But based on his offseason spending, it seems as if he’s satisfied with just winning the division every year and unwilling to write that extra check.

“Some people may think that, I think that is silly and contrary to the facts,” he said. “I think there were three teams in all of baseball that spent more than us last year ... two of them didn’t make the postseason. So, to say we don’t spend enough, it is ludicrous.

“Then you see teams with much smaller payrolls that make the postseason and even win the World Series. It’s obviously not about what you spend, it is about the moves you make, the decisions you make. I think questioning those things, criticizing those things, that’s absolutely fair. But just to say there’s a [payroll] number you need to hit and if you don’t hit it you’re not trying, that’s just silly.”

Friedman made the strong decision to sign Cole, yet was outbid by the New York Yankees. Cole later claimed he always wanted to be a Yankee, but Scott Boras’ clients generally go to the biggest spenders, so folks wonder why Guggenheim didn’t just pay for the ace.

“It is clear now, I think it was clear to us in the middle of the process, he wanted to be a Yankee, he just did,” Kasten said. “In retrospect, I think we were just the stalking horse to get a number he finally could get from a team he wanted to go to. I don’t have any quibble with his approach or with Scott’s approach, it was all very fair, but he wants to be somewhere, he got a lot of money to be where he wanted to be.”

There was a Times story by Bill Shaikin last offseason that documented the club’s desire to keep the player payroll under the competitive balance tax, leading one to believe that there’s a mandate to that effect.

“No,” Kasten said. “Two years ago, it was important, even though it was never a mandate. Last year was less important. This year, there’s no real need for that.

“Last year we did reach out in a couple of respects that would have blown past the CBT, like Bryce Harper. ... Why it seems to be such a flashpoint here befuddles me. ... Obviously, the Gerrit Cole thing would have caused us to blow past it.”

Kasten added that the roster is far from finalized and, when it is, they will probably spend beyond the CBT.

“The team we have now is not going to be the team we have to start the postseason,” Kasten said. “I expect that team, this year, it looks like it’s going to be well over the CBT, or somewhat over.”

Kasten also hinted at the potential for big names to still show up.

“There are guys that we think could be difference makers and we have pursued them, we are continuing to pursue them, when there is an opportunity we will certainly jump at it,” he said. “I like stars too ... it’s cool, it’s fun, it’s fun for the team, it’s fun for the fans. But what’s most important is winning. And for the Dodgers, it’s winning year in and year out; that’s what I’m trying to build.”

When he says “year in and year out,” that makes fans worry that his priority isn’t the stars who can capture October, but the consistency he nurtured while running the Atlanta Braves to 14 consecutive division titles that resulted in only one World Series championship.

“To be fair, I have been with teams in my career that went to the World Series seven times, that’s not an accident, it’s also not something I’m embarrassed by,” Kasten said. “Of the six times those teams did not win, two lost in Game 7, and two lost in Game 6. That does not suggest to me a philosophy that is … amiss and needs to be completely revamped.”

But this town is different. This market is starving. It demands a philosophy that will allow Friedman to spend whatever it takes to find the Kirk Gibson-type player who can end that 31-year drought.

“There are a lot of players who went to the World Series, weren’t successful, until the one time they finally were, it’s not a thing you can predict very easily,” Kasten said. “Last year you were all fixated on us getting Bryce Harper. ... Not one of you were screaming, ‘You’ve got to re-sign Daniel Hudson’ [Washington’s postseason closer]. Two years ago, not one of you were saying, ‘You have to go out and make a trade for Steve Pearce’ [2017 World Series most valuable player with Boston].

“I’m sorry, I just don’t agree with your thesis.”

There should not even be a debate about the cost of player acquisitions when the Dodgers are getting rich on that lousy TV deal.

“I’m not going to discuss the TV deal with you,” Kasten said. “I’m sorry ... I’m not going to do it.”

But surely he knows that fans’ anger over what has essentially been an unprecedented six-year TV blackout, which Kasten blames on DirecTV, has led to the growing dislike for ownership. Surely he understands the general unrest by fans with the club’s general direction.

“You have been painting a narrative for at least six years that fans hate us and we have, year in, year out, a record numbers of fans who just disagree with you,” Kasten said. “You’re just wrong about that.”

Just because fans buy tickets doesn’t mean they’re buying the team’s vision. It appears that while they might rightfully appreciate the money ownership spent to restore Dodger Stadium, fans still don’t like what’s been done with the team.

“For sure there are some fans who that feel that way, and a lot of people in the Twitterverse feel that way,” Kasten said. “But I don’t know that you’re right about that. Based on the fans that support us ... including this coming year … incredibly strong support and ticket sales … you keep trying to convince yourself that everyone hates us. I just think you’re wrong.”

Yet, it appears something in the ownership philosophy has to change so the results on the field are ultimately different.

“We won 106 games and came a couple of outs away from beating the team that won the World Series, that doesn’t suggest to me a system that needs to be completely torn apart,” Kasten said. “What about the renewed pipeline, the old Dodger value of a player pipeline that I think we’ve had a reasonable amount of success at rebuilding? How about the kids that are homegrown Dodgers? We have a payroll of $200 million. How can you call us cheap? It blows my mind.”

Nobody believes they’re cheap, but many wonder whether they’re truly committed.

“I’ve been blessed with an amazing set of opportunities in my life,” Kasten said. “This is the best thing, the most important thing, I’ve ever done, and this is the most fun I’ve ever had, to be able to do this with this brand, this franchise, in this market, is the best thing ever.

“I couldn’t be happier to be here and more proud of what we’ve done so far, but we are far from done.”

I hope so.

 

Lol!

 

Those are the words of a man that is completely and utterly self-satisfied.

There is no further proof needed to show that the Guggs are completely out of touch and are just bleeding the organization for cash.