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  1. Doughty8

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    Not any more than Fox News!!! We can agree on that right?
     
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    can't stand hillary
    and my biggest problem with her supporters is that they provide no sensible reason why they're voting for her
    it's always something along the lines of "it's her time" or "she's earned it"
    fuck that shit, she's entitled to nothing and time is reserved for no one
    i'm not necessarily opposed having a woman president -- but not this woman
    take her stance on same sex marriage 8-10 years ago
    she was extremely vocal about being against it
    and now suddenly she's in favor of it because it benefits her politically
    okay, fine
    but whenever someone inquires about why she changed her stance (like teri gross/npr) she gets combative and accuses the interviewer of attacking her... while of course never answering the question
    and while i'm not necessarily a bernie supporter, at least he always answers the questions -- directly and emphatically
    hillary is an extremely bitter, overly emotional, vindictive cunt
    and a fucken hypocrite
    she says she'll control the big boys of wall street...
    really? you mean those same fat cats who are your biggest donors?
    fuck you bitch
     
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    Tell us how you really feel! Isn't Bernie an unabashed socialist? I like Bernie more as a VP but that won't happen. Who do you like?
     
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    exactly. i don't think any less of you because you don't share my political opinion.
    i just think there is room for the conversation to take place without the vitriol and veins popping out of necks
    like BZ i listen to Maher and even donate to NPR
    i am for open dialogue because i see a lot of madness around me
    starting w our institutes of higher learning we need to promote that conversation and look for ways to get things going in a positive direction
    you can't pretend the other pov doesn't matter or exist and we owe it to each other to try and understand each other
    still i think it comes down to we need to work and we aren't
    the policies of the inner cities have failed and we need jobs for all people
    the fact that we are losing manufacturing business left and right should scare everyone
    not everyone is going to go to college and become a doctor or an attorney or whatever
    the deals our current political group have enacted guarantees we will be nothing but a consumer in the new world order (i think the idea started w nixon)
     
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    So I take it that you don't believe the latest unemployment rate?
     
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    i hate fox news but will watch brett baier
    as fucked up as 90% of it is there is not another television media outlet that states conservative thoughts
     
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    no i don't because i look around and see a lot of people that have given up
     
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    Unless you think the Bureau of Labor statistics is corrupt the numbers are there. Perception isn't always reality but I do agree there seem to be more homeless. Can't tell who the scammers anymore as well.
     
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    I think 538 analyzed the unemployment numbers fairly well (and concisely) during the last Democratic debate:

    Sanders says the “real unemployment rate” is 10 percent, not the 4.9 percent the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Friday. Unlike Donald Trump’sabsurd claim that the unemployment rate is really as high as 42 percent, Sanders is on relatively firm ground here. The official unemployment rate ignores people who have given up looking for jobs, and those stuck in part-time jobs because they can’t find full-time work. Add those people back in, and the unemployment rate rises to 9.9 percent. Is that number the “real” unemployment rate? Not necessarily; the definition of unemployment has been consistent for decades. But it’s a legitimate — and perhaps even better — measure of the pain many workers are still feeling in this economy.​
     
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    No...way more slanted than FOX is...the whole media, save for FOX, is liberal and shills for the left...that's the main reason they ( FOX) stand out so much...every other outlet is liberal. Every one...that's why libs hate it. They are as lefty as our pitching staff...
    Let's have every TV outlet give only lefty viewpoints, right? Nobody else allowed...state run media?
    Even to turning a blind eye to that scummy virago, Hillary, and her record as long as her fucking arm.
     
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    Isn't that report sort of like Saber like? "Relatively" hmm. So using that reports premiss and those rates are skewed then you can add 5% to every reported rate throughout recent history?
     
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    hadn't heard Trump claim that but he does say outrageous things for attention so without looking it up ill take your word here
    i would say 10-15% is pretty realistic especially when you consider how many businesses large and small have been lost in recent times
    not all are lost because of internet competition although that certainly plays a big part as well as plain over regulation and strangulation of business
    still no matter how you see the cause a lot of people have fallen off the radar completely
    i actually like Sanders btw and listen to what he is saying no matter how impossible it may be
    reminds me of that uncle that makes everyone laugh while he's making shit up straight faced
    you know he's bat shit crazy but its refreshing all the same
     
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    Sorry man but damn! Fox is slanted so far I'm surprised the desks don't fall over. MSNBC is slanted to left no doubt but there aren't making absurd claims on a regular basis.

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicamisener/most-insane-fox-news-moments-of-all-time#.ucX8Bkw0G

    Rupert Murdoch still owns the company right?
     
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    Well, this is like argueing religion...just hopeless.
    I think whomever supports Hillary can rejoice.??ypu will conquer. Victory is yours. I think Bernie dries up soon, and the GOP guys will eat themselves up like cannibals
    For me, it's like hiring back Ned as GM...
     
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    He said it's more like 40%
     
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    See we can agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
     
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    He still does...aye...just like ALL the others certainly don't want a Rep. Pres. EVER...no mo control, then...or less than now with Barry.
    Howya like George Soros?
     
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    Not quite - you'd have to look at the historical rate of (A) individuals who have given up looking for jobs and (B) those stuck in part-time jobs who can't find full-time work. It's not given that this number has been 5%. I could look into it more if you'd like, but I honestly don't know off the top of my head how the current real employment rate, if you will, compares to times in the past.
     
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    No you don't have to go crazy thanks for responding. We can agree it's not 40% though right lol.
     
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    i don't think that Sanders was originally anything more than a body to stand on stage while the anointed one was processed through
    no one planned on him being an actual choice and then Hillarys chickens began coming home to roost
    and then after a resounding victory in NH and in true socialist form Hillary get the super delegates and the win!
    hysterical in a perverted alternative psychedelic delusional reality such as our current political structure
     
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