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Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by irish, Feb 18, 2015.

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  1. Doughty8

    Doughty8 DSP Legend

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    Never heard of him until I looked it up, I don't dispute that Hillary has some shady money people but in proportion to the super pack people I'm not worried. If I do more research I may but not at this point. At least he has philanthropist in his bio.
     
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    never heard of soros???
     
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    Bernie calls himself a democratic socialist so I don't get that point. Ask Al Gore about that part of the election process.
     
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    No I haven't honestly. Is that a problem? Do you know everyone? lol. Like I said I don't deny Hillary has suspicious donors.
     
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    i don't like any of them all that much tbh
    but if given the choice bernie > hillary and it's not even close
    the gop is a fucken mess
    if bush would have gotten into the race sooner his #'s would be a lot better
    but i don't think he really wants to be president
    trump is appealing to the masses only because he'll say whatever the fuck he wants and makes no apologies
    but he's a fucken madman with no concept of how a country operates
    as for the rest (active or withdrwan); cruz is a piece of shit, rubio is a child, cristie is a calculating douche (remember him creating that traffic problem because he was pissed at the municipalities?), paul, fiorini, blah, blah, blah...
    give me bernie
     
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    Well guys I'd love to stick around for this enlightening debate but I must get ready for a family lunch.
     
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    a fund raiser? :poke:
     
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    Yeah, that's pretty clear haha.

    Also, if you're interested in the unemployment numbers Sanders was alluding to, it's "U-6", which can be found here: http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

    It looks like it hit 7% in ~2000 before the recession, but based on my eyeballing, 10% hasn't been that far out of the norm in in the last 12 years.
     
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    I could use money lol. Actually not to lobby for sympathy or bring shit down but my wife passed from the cancer and we are meeting for the support and arrangements
     
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    This Soros thing is a straw man arguement. He's been a staunch Democrat for decades because he is a believer in liberal values. He didn't grow up rich, and in fact, lived in hiding in Hungary as the Nazis took over Hungary and was deporting people to concentration camps.

    He worked hard and even though he was dirt poor, was able to make it to the London School of Economics. In any case, yes he's rich, but he earned it and certainly didn't start that way.

    He has the right to spend his money the same way the Kochs, Adelsons, and any of the other super rich or hedge fund managers (the vast majority of whom are Republican donors) want to spend their money.

    But just saying "Soros" shouldn't bring up the big money boogeyman argument against Hillary or Sanders for that matter vs all the huge money the republican candidates have access to (and statistically are several time better funded than their democratic opponents).
     
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    Soros is a brilliant investor. He's returned an average of 20% per year on his investments since starting his hedge fund / family office.
     
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    just surprised
    in a political discussion i would think the major players would be known
    enjoy lunch w your family and hope things are moving along well for you and yours
     
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    omg i am so sorry to hear that bro
     
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    I'm sorry to hear that. Prayers and peace to you Doughty.
     
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    posted my last comment before reading this
    sincerely hope she didn't suffer, that wasn't a very long illness iirc
    can i ask how long you were married?
     
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    No ill will brother, these debates help with the grieving, can't wallow in despair. She's been in and out of body issues for a better part of a decade so it's a relief really.
     
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    No more pain and suffering so it's a relief. Thank you sir!!
     
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    Gotta go thanks guys for the knowledge and the sympathies!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    i actually understand this
    when my mother passed a few years back she had been suffering
    first from dementia and then she basically stopped eating just lying in bed barely conscious
    it was tough to go through
    it was essentially every day waiting for her to die
    and then when the inevitable happened, like you said, it was kind of a relief
    same with my dad but for different reasons
    he had all his faculties but his body was wearing out
    seemed like almost every other day he had to be rushed to the hospital for something
    always worrying, wondering
    i miss them both immensely
    but knowing they're together, pain free... i sleep a whole lot better
     
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    Perverted alternative psychedelic delusional reality...wow...I think that was a Yoko Ono album, Devil.
    Awesome man.
    Approxomately infinite universe.
     
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