GAME THREAD ROCKIES/DODGERS

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series predictions...

  1. arenado goes 13-for-14 with 4 hr

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    71.4%

  2. continued ad nauseum pimping of orel bobblehead

    4 vote(s)
    57.1%

  3. dodgers score 10+ runs in series

    2 vote(s)
    28.6%

  4. rockies score 15+ runs in series

    4 vote(s)
    57.1%

  5. ryu goes 5+ innings

    3 vote(s)
    42.9%

  6. kershaw goes 6+ innings

    3 vote(s)
    42.9%

  7. buehler k's 10+ hitters

    4 vote(s)
    57.1%

  8. muncy k's 5+ times

    4 vote(s)
    57.1%

  9. kenley 25+ pitches

    5 vote(s)
    71.4%

  10. we get swept

    4 vote(s)
    57.1%
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  1. ColoradoKidWitGame

    ColoradoKidWitGame DSP Legend Administrator

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    If they could have stayed healthy at all they would have been trouble, but they didn't. Rodriguez as their #3 behind a healthy Bumgarner and Cueto with the way that bullpen has performed would have been scary. Then there is Holland and his good season behind that and you are looking at a pain in the ass front 4 of that rotation. Instead they were still rolling out the decaying corpse of Hunter Pence in the 2-3 hole whenever I watched and just about every key contributor spent significant time on the DL. Not saying that they are world beaters, but worries about them being good were and are not unfounded. It will be interesting to see how they go about this next offseason. They have drafted pretty well the last two years and could choose to weather this storm for another year and start getting pieces in place to really compete again in 2020. I don't think anyone on their roster nets them a return worthy of a full rebuild besides Bumgarner, but I have a hard time seeing them ever move him. With their entire core under contract til at least 2020, it may be worth it for them to keep rolling the dice.

    Bumgarner: 19 GS Missed first couple of months with broken hand
    Cueto: 9 GS Out for year with TJ
    Samardzija: 10 GS Out for year with Shoulder Injury
    Melancon: 36 Appearances, Forearm issues early
    Belt: 112 Games and hurt again
    Posey: 105 Games, tried playing through a hip injury and now is out for the year
    Panik: 91 Games, not sure what is wrong, but he looks busted.
    Longoria: 114 Games, broke hand in June
    Duggar: Mid season call up that played 40 games, torn labrum out for season. 4+Win output in short stint
    Sandoval: 92 Games, Torn Right Hamstring out for year.
     
    ColoradoKidWitGame, Sep 18, 2018
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    monkey see monkey do when your example is 'evolved' sea monkeys staining everything with their monkey doo.
     
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    Harold Reynolds over here. Lol You lose 98 games the year before with an aging group, you'd better have a young talent base to draw from the next year if you really want to increase the chances of a major jump. Most everybody you have there with those injuries..they would've missed time one way or another and some of those guys are also just bums. Can certainly count me as one who's not surprised that Cueto's elbow gave out..he was heading in that direction in Cincy. Had to be shut down multiple times. Why he got the deal he ended up getting.

    I can't recall the last time I saw an aging group lose close to 100 games, go out in the offseason and get a few more guys that are aging, and then compete for the post season the next year. Only reason their asses haven't been completely blown out of the water is because LAD/DBags/ROX have all been underwhelming for lengthy stretches as well as the NL just being down in general. Maybe the SFG FO figured it'd be a down year for the NL and that was part of their scheme? Wasn't weak enough.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    irish, Sep 18, 2018
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    no doubt kersh is a hall of famer
    what he's accomplished in his career has been both impressive and amazing
    but imo his legacy will be largely defined by his postseason failures
    tonight is (obviously) not the post, but (again, obviously) a huge game
    if kersh doesn't step up tonight then, seriously, what good is he?
    i mean, if you can't rely on someone in a big game and/or the post...
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    irish, Sep 18, 2018
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    Not disagreeing with most of this, but Kersh has stepped up in a lot of big games, especially if you include the regular season. Unfortunately his postseason losses get all the press. Yes, he's had some bad ones. But he's also won some big ones to get us there. Dodgers wouldn't be leading the West right now without Kersh's role in it.

    But I hear you, a gem tonight would be huge with first place on the line and a tough pitcher on the mound for the other team.
     
    lastatman, Sep 18, 2018
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    Dodger hitters have had some success against Freeland, although I get that he's improved this year. Turner, Taylor, Bellinger, Puig, and Freese have hit him. Problem is catcher. I expect Grandal (0-3) will start, especially because Barnes is 0-11 against him. And Dave may want to reconsider his L/R decision in left field. Kemp is only 1-11 while Joc has 3 hits in 4 ABs against the lefty (as well as swinging a hot bat right now).
     
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  10. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    don't disagree
    but (fair or not) the postseason is ultimately all that matters
    if a ball rolls through bill buckner in a regular season game in 1986 no one remembers
    same with donnie moore, eckersly, mitch williams, even steve bartmann
    kersh has absolutely been an integral part of getting us to the post all these years
    and although he's lost a little, he's still a top starter that any team would be happy to have
    and there's no doubt he trains and prepares as hard as anyone
    just hard to forget those post season failures
     
    irish, Sep 18, 2018
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    Taylor LF
    Turner 3B 2-4
    Machado SS 1-4, (0-3 with 2 DPs with runners on base)
    Freese 1B
    Kemp RF
    Dozier 2B 0-4 4 Ks, 1 error
    Hernández CF
    Barnes C -0-4, 4 strikeouts looking on 12 pitches
    Kershaw P
     
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    I have faith in the top 4 of the lineup. Taylor/Freese have been good lately against lefties. I’m hesitant on the rest of the lineup though. Our best hope for Dozier/Hernandez honestly is that they pop a home run
     
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    I'm really surprised with the Barnes start. 0-11 lifetime against Freeland is hard to overlook. There's a good chance it will be 0-15 after this game. Maybe the thinking is that Grandal is just as likely for an O-fer, so at least get someone in there that can catch a ball from the outfield. That could be the difference in this type of game.
     
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    I hate the Kike start. Puig actually has good history against Freeland, and he's on fire. I'm not getting it.
     
    lastatman, Sep 18, 2018
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    Eh, I hate the Dozier start more than Enrique. Enrique is historically great against lefties, Puig struggles against them. I do think enrique at 2B and Puig in Rf should be close to an everyday thing though. Dozier/Utley aren’t worth it at 2B, Muncy shouldn’t play 2B, and maybe Taylor could play 2B if you need Puig/Kemp/Bellinger in the OF
     
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    Basically the implication is that he wasn't giving 100% before that. For the money these guys make, that shouldn't be the case.

    Then the whole thing back in April when he bitched about the someone on the Orioles trying to beat the shift with a bunt while trailing, and I just don't have a very high opinion of the guy. I hope he gets it going soon though. We're going to need his bat if we get to the post.
     
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    grandMal is immune to reverse jinxing
    there is no magic that will deny tonight's inevitable 0-4 with a dropped throw, 2 passed balls and -- of course -- arguing strike calls
     
    irish, Sep 18, 2018
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    True. At lease Kike is over the Mendoza line, something Dozier as a Dodger is not.
     
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    thought the exact same thing actually
     
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    His whiny bitch quotient is off the charts.
     
    fsudog21, Sep 18, 2018
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