so we have 4 outfielders...

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  1. back2back x 2 + 1

    back2back x 2 + 1 DSP Legend Damned

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    and yeh i'm just fine with it at this point. if Guggenheim is really rollin in dough like we know they are...why not just be remembered and be seen as that national league team that once kept 4 big money outfielders if it's working out? wtf...just defy logic. the pen has come together and we actually have young arms left over. if Zach Lee or Reed come along it's just gonna be just too much for me. im gonna need a room service- bad Ned move just so i don't feel guilty as a fan...just trade Joc for peanuts or something because that can't be fair ( i'm kiddin).

    think about it ( and i'm sure you have...we all have). having a Kemp or Ethier as our DH in potential World Series appearances is unreal. Dodgers would actually roll out their best lineup in AL parks in the World Series. CC-Puig-AGon-HanRam-Kemp-Ethier-Ellis-Uribe-Ellis is better than any current AL lineup. lol and then if we get Greinke pitching at home in a potential WS appearance...hell, he's a hitter too.

    so, i guess what i'm basically saying here is if this is working, and hell yeh it is, roll with it and give this core a few more years together even. a few changes here and there, like eventually bringing up Seager at short or 3B and maybe signing Alexander Guerrero to play 2B and replacing our older infielders, but nothing more than that. keep the 4 outfielders! we're lucky to have all 3 healthy at one time anyway!
     
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    N.Z DSP Legend

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    I fully agree. We have four outfielders yet two of them are getting paid 20 mil a year to play a handful of games before getting injured. If we have the money, what's wrong with the depth? We gotta pay Kemp and Crawford's horrid contracts anyway.
     
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    I would give each a day off and play on matchups. My rotation would look like this (LF-CF-RF):

    CC-Kemp-Ethier
    Puig-Kemp Ethier
    CC-Ethier-Puig
    CC-Kemp-Puig

    Anytime a lefty is pitching CC or Ethier sit, without question.
     
  4. BlueMouse

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    Who are these 4 OFer's you're talking about? Have all 4 even been on the 25-man roster at the same time this season? It seems to me that having all 4 isn't a luxury at this point, it's a necessity.
     
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    Jpdodgers Well-Known Member

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    Its kinda of crazy how we all of a sudden have so much depth now. I mean we just sent down Fife, a starting pitcher with a 2.47 ERA this year, and 2.70 ERA last year, because we don't have room for him. We have a bunch of arms marinating in the farm too.

    The main concern I have though is the downward trend of CC/Ethier. CC has never been an OBP guy to be leading off, and relied on his speed to be effective (SBs, XBHs etc..). But his speed is clearly diminished. So he's got little power, doesn't get on base a lot, no defense, diminishing speed. Ethier's power has desserted him as well. They're both signed for a long time, but while they are servicable this year, in about 2 years ,they're going to be major deadweight. We're going to go from good OF depth to a bunch of deadweights.

    I believe Kemp will regain his mojo late this year or next season, so I'm still hoping Joc will be that LF of the future, and we can still shed one of either CC or Either, preferably the former. Maybe we can start giving Ethier some reps at 1b too so he could be more of a utility player in the future.
     
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    back2back x 2 + 1 DSP Legend Damned

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    yeh, but it's still a luxury to have 4 like we have...even when Crawford hasn't been as good as he was in TB, he's still a good option at the top of the order and he did his part early in the season with AGon in helping keep the afloat. seems like CC has had 4 or 5 three hit games since the all-star break.

    i get what you're tryin to say, but they'll eventually get healthy and we could always have lesser talented guys like SVS or Gwynn Jr. filling in when that eventually happens. if they get to the World Series and park Kemp or Ethier in the DH role getting all 4 of those bats in the lineup that's a luxury, my man.
     
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    For what it's worth, I've been in favor of having all 4 on the team from the beginning of the season (as opposed to trading one away). I think of all the rest they could get, we would always have one available to PH, the double switch options for DBB, and in AL parks with the DH (Crawford would be the DH) we would have a better option than most AL teams - so I agree with why you are excited.

    But until I actually see all 4 healthy at the same time, I can't help but be facetious. [​IMG]
     
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    Um, wouldn't that be discrimination? :hide:
     
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    Disagree. For this season, sure, after, it's illogical.
     
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    totally agree
    there's fragile egos involved
    and none of the four are gonna want/accept a platoon-type situation
     
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    And nor should they really, especially Puig.
     
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    and if kemp somehow returns to the kemp of old... :shrug:
     
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    What are you disagreeing with here?
     
  14. VRP

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    Keeping 4 outfielders past 2013
     
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    I wish (hope) this offseason we find somehow to move Carl. I'd assume Kemp can stay healthier next year (who knows, with hamstrings) but having an OF of Ethier/Kemp/Puig is ideal with SVS as a 4th OF for Ethier, and Joc as the dude who comes up with any injury. With Joc in the wings, it's really that we have 5 OFs, not 4.

    I just don't know if trading Carl is realistic. And, well, we can trade Ethier, but having an OF of Crawford/Kemp/Puig is just asking for multiple injuries out there IMO. Not like Ethier is an Iron Horse or anything, he's had his fair share of injuries, but just a tad bit more reliable than Carl.
     
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    I agree. In order of who I'd like to move the most I'd go 1) CC, 2) Kemp, 3) Dre. Obviously we're not trading Puig. If CC can't be moved and Kemp doesn't get you a return though, I'd reluctantly move Dre, but it'd make me sad.
     
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    It's just so hard to be able to predict these guys injuries, which is the scary part about letting one go. It's a tough as hell decision. I'm glad for this year we have all 4, because as BM said, it hasn't even been like we have 4 at any time. But if next year these guys might be a bit more healthy (you hope) then yeah.

    It's a good problem to have, and a weird one really, but hopefully someone becomes desperate for some offense and doesn't mind shelling out 80 mil (or gives a good return for us doing so)
     
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    It's only illogical if all 4 can stay healthy for more than a month straight. But until that happens... :vrp:
     
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    Yeah, just a tad.
     
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    If you're prepared to keep all 4, wouldn't it be more beneficial to eat all the money and trade one of them? Just playing devil's advocate, but rather than pay 80 million a year to 4 OFers, you'd get a good haul for Kemp if you pay for his contract, and you wouldn't have to DFA SVS/trade Joc.
     

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