DODGERS The 2012/13 HANLEY Thread

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  1. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    fanfuckentastic
    for the umpteenth time...
    if i were an owner every contract would have a no wbc clause

    Hanley Ramirez injures thumb
    ESPN.com news services
    Updated: March 20, 2013, 1:48 AM ET

    Los Angeles Dodgers shortstop Hanley Ramirez suffered a thumb injury Tuesday while playing for the Dominican Republic in the World Baseball Classic championship game.

    Ramirez was fitted with a splint as a precautionary measure, the MLB Network reported during the telecast of the Dominican Republic's victory over Puerto Rico. The three-time All-Star will be evaluated by Dodgers team doctors on Wednesday.

    It is unclear how Ramirez, who played third base during the tournament, suffered the injury. He made a diving attempt at a grounder in the third inning but did not leave the contest until the sixth.

    Ramirez is set to enter his first full season with the Dodgers, who acquired the former NL batting champion in a blockbuster trade last year with the Miami Marlins.​

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  2. chris

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    He seems fine, doesn't seem like he's hurt or anything because he's posting pictures on Instagram of him celebrating with FD Robinson Cano. Hopefully it's just a mild sprain and he can play this weekend
     
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    TuborgP DSP Legend

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    WBC is sponsored and promoted by MLB so it is and would be hard to try to not let players play. For some the issue is lack of participation by American ancestry players and us not fielding our strongest team.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Baseball_Classic

    How can MLB and the Players Association not support what they started?
     
    TuborgP, Mar 20, 2013
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  4. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    imo... fuck mlb, fuck the player association
    they're not the ones investing millions of dollars in the players
    imagine if buster posey had suffered his serious injury in the wbc
    guaranteed the giants would have not allowed him to go back
    the reds did it this year with cueto coming off an injury
    hopefully chris is right and hanley's injury is minor

    took me a while :retard: but i just figured out fd :irish:
     
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    Irish, MLB is the owners and they are the ones who started it all to spread the PR about baseball world wide and make even more money. Hell losing Hanley for 10 weeks in the big picture is worth it to MLB just because of the enthusiasm for it all in Latin America. More kids playing more prospects and the United States is drying up with prospects compared to years ago.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    don't agree at all
    mlb is selig
    and i guarantee if you privately asked any owner whether they wanted their biggest investment to risk injury playing in the wbc they would say no
    think arte would have wanted to risk hamilton -- who has yet to play a regular season game with the angels -- to take that risk?
    what about us with greinke?
    may make more money worldwide in the long run
    but if i'm an owner i care more about making money for me and my organization

    again you're speaking for mlb as a whole
    otherwise tell me how losing hanley for a hypothetical 10 weeks would possibly help the 2013 dodgers?
    fuck the big picture if it costs my team
     
    irish, Mar 20, 2013
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    Your argument hinges on the fact that it's more likely a player will get injured in the WBC than in Spring Training, which isn't necessarily true.

    I'm a huge fan of the WBC, for a lot of reasons. It certainly has it's flaws, but so does the MLB, but what it does provide is 1) more attention globally to the greatest sport in the world, 2) looks at young and inexperienced players in high leverage situations, which will only speed up their development down the line (Andrelton, Kelvin Herrera), and 3) provides opportunities for MLB teams to get looks at talented players that may have slipped through the cracks (Peter Moylan was signed by Atlanta after the '06 WBC).
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    yes and no
    obviously, anybody can get injured anywhere doing anything
    but if a player isn't playing for the wbc then there's zero chance he gets injured there
    as an owner, i'm paying $$$,$$$,$$$ for players to play hard (risk injury) for me, not the wbc

    this is where we disagree
    and i'm certainly not saying you're wrong
    i'm just not that big a fan of the wbc

    but here's my compromise/suggestion
    how about letting players play for their country... but only those not on mlb team's current 40-man rosters?
    a pipe dream, i know
     
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    2-10 weeks. Fan-fucking tastic. I hate every single scumbag that participates in that pointless shit. Beyond furious right now. They don't let him play SS in winter ball or the WBC, so he should've been playing SS for us. Not taking 3B for that stupid ass country I dgaf about.
     
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    Nobody would watch that. I'm assuming you didn't follow the WBC this year, as it was by most accounts an overwhelming success. Like I said, IMO, it has a handful of obvious advantages, and the "risk" is the same risk that would be present in spring training.
     
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    The second they didn't let him play his position behind Tejada in Winter ball, Hanley and the Dodgers should've been all over the manager. In the WBC, Reyes deserved to play SS, and Hanley should've honorably declined and played SS for the Dodgers.

    I want to see my fucking full team on opening day. And it's not gonna fucking happen. And it's annoying as fucking hell.
     
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    maybe i'm old school and/or too stubborn
    but i'd rather watch a college or minor league game than wbc
    just seems too contrived and disingenuous to me
    and if a player is going to get injured i'd rather it be playing for me and not someone else
    would you let a gf go out with others because she's going to get fucked either way?
     
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    April 2nd lineup:
    1) Mark Ellis 2B
    2) Jerry Hairston LF
    3) Matt Kemp CF
    4) Adrian Gonzalez 1B
    5) Juan Uribe 3B
    6) Andre Ethier RF
    7) Luis Cruz SS
    8) AJ Ellis C
    9) Chad Billingsley P

    Just like old times!!! ! ! ! !!!
     
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    Every local and national radio show ignored it and/or laughed at it in passing. They never sold out a single game. The finals tickets were 4 bucks a pop. And if the USA was in it, maybe it would've been a whopping 12 bucks.
     
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    It was the #1 most watched sporting event in Japan, Puerto Rico, and the Dominican Republic in YEARS. The same news sources you're sourcing are the same ones that treat Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless as respected journalists.
     
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    Bold strategy playing two second basemen and no left fielder, but I like it!
     
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    smh, I forgot to put Jerry Hairston as a LF :(
     
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  19. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    tb where did you see this?
    i can't find any info on it...
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    my fault
    i put vrp in a bad mood :duck::vrp:
     
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