Time to cut ties with Ethier?

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  1. 4everblue

    4everblue DSP Regular

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    Exactly. The guy has no fucking idea. The article is a mess.
     
  2. back2back x 2 + 1

    back2back x 2 + 1 DSP Legend Damned

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    Kemp should be in the 2-hole next year, my friend. Kemp needs pitches to hit and do damage...he can get those in front of Hanley. we have a few 30HR power guys...Ethier is not one of them. Ethier can do his OBP thing in a platoon with CC somewhere down in the lineup and hopefully get on for Puig/Kemp/Hanley when it flips back over
     
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    this also. although i'd like to see CC hitting 7th or 8th next year. we have the hitters to pull it off now that they can slide Guerrero into an RBI spot ( hopefully) behind AGon
     
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    Yeah - Puig, Kemp as your one, two would be really something. It's just a lot of power at the very top of the lineup. If Kemp comes out hitting the ball extremely well like the very few games he played last year - then I'd want to put CC at the top, then Puig & Kemp, drop Hanley to 4th, Agon 5th. Something like that. But, really, it will be tough to screw up a Dodger lineup with with everyone healthy and happy.

    Guerrero - I think we have to wait and see what we've got there.
     
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    Since leading off is all about speed, we still have Dee! His ability to be in the leadoff spot gives him some leverage over some of the other guys I'd say.

    Crawford is pretty much Juan Pierre with more pop. Thanks for the October moments bro, but your regular season was shit to put it in a nice way.
     
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    Two cents.

    Kemp and Crawford are both fragile. This team needs production from 3rd base and 2nd base. Hopefully the Cuban solves the problem at 2nd. Until Kemp and Crawford prove they can stay in the lineup it doesn't make any sense to deal Ethier, unless you can turn him over for a respectable bat at 3rd, which is extremely unlikely. Dre is under contract and should be kept until we develop, trade, or buy a good hitting 3rd baseman. Once that is accomplished, I really think you can deal Crawford or Andre, not important which one.

    btw, Juan Pierre called...he's jealous of Crawford's arm.
     
  7. irish

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    :rofl:
     
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    what a wonderful contribution that was. however, yes, speed is important at the top of the line up...any manager with a brain wants his faster guys that can go from 1st to home hitting ahead of a Hanley Ramirez/Adrian Gonzalez...if they can handle the bat.

    that being said, i don't want Crawford leading off anymore. a free swinger that doesn't square the ball up consisently is not a good fit for the top of the lineup. he can do all he does in the 7th or 8th spot. i'll be disappointed if Kemp isn't hitting 2nd. he's fast enough to go 1st to home ( when healthy), and he can get more fastballs there and do some real damage. unless he's traded, that's where he should be...hitting in between Puig and Hanley
     
  9. rube

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    Keep
    Run 4 of in rotation
    Trade craw or either at break for better infielder
    Or keep for dh in ws
     
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    I wanted to trade Ethier in the worst way in 2012 but with Crawford now in the equation I'd much rather get rid of him. Ethier would be a far more productive leadoff hitter than Crawford.
     
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    Dre makes less money than Crawford so he's the more tradeable of the 2. Plus Crawford is older.
     
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    The notion that having 4 starting outfielders gives you enough depth to trade one is a fallacy. In baseball last year 36 players players started in the outfield 120 times or more. Assuming you're lucky enough to have all three start that many games for you it leaves another 120 games for your 4th outfielder.

    Perhaps another need on your roster is of greater need and you can improve by trading ethier or crawford but just know, you'll also be shopping for another outfielder.
     
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    Well, with all this back and forth, I just hope that Ned knows that brown is the in color this fashion season, and he chooses the right dresses for the 2014 bridesmaids. Event to be held next October.
    We may not win (well...we don't win), but we can look good not winning...and be stylish.
    That's something to shoot for in the next quarter century...
     
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    I'm not sure what it means when F YOUK is the voice of reason.
     
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    it means he's more objective :shrug:
     
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    It means the dodgers pendulum has swung from confident as fuck to blow the thing up and the reality is somewhere in between.
     
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    For now we keep all four. We have the money to not need to make a mistake that in hindsight wasn't needed. We can go to spring training with four and remember without the star four we are shallow in the outfield. Not sure how much we can count on SVS as a solid outfielder. It was just a season or so ago we had Rivera etc etc as a starting outfielder and we have one season with four good outfielders ( not healthy at the same time) and we want to trade one one? Chill we have the money to be cautious and owners spending their cash flow on players and not their wives and beach houses. Get use to it, should give all of us a warm fuzzy feeling. Does me.
     
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    Damn I feel warm and fuzzy all over and at my age and that ain't bad as winter approaches.
     
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  19. irish

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    had that last year
    some antibiotics should clear it up in about a week
     
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    <Insert Groucho Marx smiley here>.
     

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