FEDIT POLITICS Thread

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by CapnTreee, Aug 12, 2016.

  1. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    of course it is
    you can either look at things realistically or believe the fantasy
    the fantasy is that Trump did this to keep america safe from terrorist immigrants
    the reality is that Trump like all politicians is doing something that he believes will pay off for him politically
    we know that it is a shamwow thrown over our eyes to suck up all our salty tears
    that its not really something to make us safer
    but for a lot of people it makes them 'feel' safer
    and for the Trump base that is manna from heaven
    its kryptonite for the dems but in trumps mind he doesnt need the dems to get reelected in 4 years
    so you make this fake terror ban list that will only affect a tiny amount of people and you get all the free pub you want and energize your base
    but you arent so stupid to piss off your big business saudi oil princes or your military strongman with nukes in pakistan
    the fact that the biggest terrorist MVP's come from those two all star teams is irrelevant to the politics that actually plays
     
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  2. LAdiablo

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    maybe i can say it differently
    i still don't like it
    i know why they aren't on the list
     
  3. Bluezoo

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    Oblio said it best..."You don't have to have a point, to have a point".
    Me and my Arrow.
     
  4. rube

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    and trump is perfect at that sleight of hand manipulation
    while everyone talks about all the shit he says, all his bombast, and his twitter stuff... he is putting in work without much media interference
    dude is a lot smarter than folks give him credit for
    evil genius smart though lol
     
  5. BlueMouse

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    I agree that safety and freedom under a government are in direct conflict - that's why you have to be willing to sacrifice on one to achieve the other.

    If you remove government they don't necessarily conflict, but that's anarchy and chaos. I much prefer the government structure on this.
     
  6. TAFNAC

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    I have never seen anyone manipulate the media, and their legion of useful idiots in this way before.

    Not sure if there is a master plan or not. But this whole thing could blow up in his (and our) face in a really bad way.
     
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    Problem with that thought is that government causes most of the threats to our safety.
     
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  8. rube

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    all government starts in chaos, evolves as markets are formed, turns into a democracy/communism, and devolves into tyranny before turning back to chaos.
    there is no sacrificing one for another, there is no alternative, there is no choice, there is only time.
    and time says where you are on the scale
    conservatism is about wanting to slow time down, even if it means keeping some things that are not that great
    progressivism is about wanting to speed time up, even if it means getting into some things that are not that great
    conservatism is the devil you know, going to bed with the girl you brought to the dance
    progressivism is calling an unknown devil lady luck and taking her out for a spin on the STD carousel
    because the faster you go the faster you get to tyranny and chaos
    then again if you are at tyranny already then chaos may seem like the way to go
    because chaos can only last for so long before markets start to form again and the cycle renews
    cuz people gotta eat
     
  9. Bluezoo

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    Good point...but maybe keep in mind that the Dems and libs under The Kenyan didn't really need maniputation.
    More like state run. Pravda shit.
    Following orders for these well drilled soldiers was no problem then.
    It requires "manipulation" at this time, however.
    Sure, it might blow up in his face eventually, as you suggest...but "throw shit against the wall and see what sticks...give it a shot-see what you get away with" is usual m.o. for most successful sociopaths.
    It's two weeks...imo, that's why it is all coming in a such a deluge.
     
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    I just worry about the amount of extremism we're seeing from both sides lately.
     
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    Sure...it's all magnified because of the election and who won and the general poor loser thing the Libs can't abide by...definitely not The Dude.
    When BHO won, and the Right was disappointed and crushed, it was basically " fuck you conservative douchebags...learn to live with it". But now, the shoe is on the other foot, and they can't fathom dealing with it for four years. Can't handle it at all. Talk about whining under the guise of " our rights". Lol.
    As far as Trump, he has always been a mad man in his dealings, so why would he change now? He'll get away with as much as he can, then they' ll rein him in. Then it will all start over again, either one way or the other.
    What I am surprised at, however, is that he is not being cast as the true anti- Christ. Not his character, but the whole biblical prophecy thing...the AC was supposed to come from politics, I believe. Or Gregory Peck ??. 666...
    Maybe I've missed it.
    Maybe because the libs and religion are like oil and water...
     
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    How does the travel ban impact Emirates?


    edit: :poty:
     
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  13. TAFNAC

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    Just like the old administration, the new one likes killing children.
    A US Navy SEAL was also killed the raid. Terrible waste of life on both sides.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4174310/Daughter-Anwar-al-Awlaki-Trump-s-raid.html
     
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    POTY candidate right there! :D
     
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    question
    what do you do when the enemy immerses itself in the mosques and fabric of everyday society?
    and do you truly believe the people in immediate contact have no idea whats going on?
    no one likes the idea of innocents and especially children dying in conflict
    just curious as to what you think the option is
     
  16. TAFNAC

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    I don't pretend to have all the answers, nor do I deny that in many cases, terrorists hide themselves among innocents.

    But the US probably shouldn't be bombing and operating in random countriess that we are not at war with. We are making terrorists faster than we can kill them with all the destruction. For every bad guy we kill, we make two more by killing nearby innocents.

    Think how angry we all get when you think about the Ft. Hood shooter, or the San Bernardino shooter. We are doing shit like that with drones nearly every day in Yemen, Syria, Iraq and a few other places.

    We are killing our own servicemen in those places too...And I'm not so sure that their sacrifices are accomplishing anything.
     
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    and those drone strikes over the last 8 years have certainly pumped up the hate
    and now the new guy gets to deal w it
    i agree w the sentiment that we shouldn't even be involved there
    but here we are and whats next?
    can't sit on our hands can we?
     
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    Well...Not just the last guy, but the guy before that too.

    I don't know. Maybe cutting back (or stopping) the intervention for a while might be better. What we're doing now isnt working very well.
     
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    and that irks me
    the left calling for trump's head before he was even sworn in
    while they conveniently turn/turned a blind eye to (their own) outgoing administration
    opportunistic hypocrites
     
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    you know i'm no fan of bush either
    truth is there is still no leader that identifies the arabs as an enemy
    its all bullshit but the left keeps trying to make it about anyone but them
    they are as much at the center of this madness as anyone
    let those people fight amongst themselves in the sand
     

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