NEWS/RUMORS/AROUND MLB Thread (Oct 2016 - Feb 2017)

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  1. lastatman

    lastatman DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    Let's see... last year Giants had a disaster of a bullpen. One of the culprits was Romo, so they won't resign him. And yet the Dodgers, who have a stronger bullpen, are looking to add him?!? Doesn't make sense. I don't care what his BAA vs righties was... I still saw him melt down in too many pressure situations. Giant castoffs do not work for us. Please steer clear of this guy.
     
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    I think you are thinking of Casilla.....who blew 9 saves. Also remember Jansen blew 6.......and a few of them were a bit costly.

    I get it, any x-giant sucks........but maybe the glass is 1/2 full. If we sign Romo and he does great, then every giant fan is going to be SUPER PISSED......win for US!!!

    Also, take a look at Blanton vs Romo......Blanton 2.48 era, Romo 2.64 era. Blanton 1.01 WHIP, Romo 1.08 WHIP. Blanton 1 blown save. Romo no blown saves. If you want Blanton to be signed, then not wanting Romo because he melted down in pressure situations doesn't make sense. Don't get me wrong, I don't want him anywhere near the 9th inning, but him coming in during the 6 or 7 innings is probably an asset.
     
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    And laugh about it on his way back to the dugout...at least Broxton and Blanton aren't amused by abject failure.
    It must be a genius FO thing, well beyond fan comprehension.
    Once Einstein was asked how it feels to be the most brilliant man in the world, and his reply was " I don't know, ask Nikolas Tesla".
     
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    No, it wasn't all on Casilla. Romo was the guy who put the MOB for Cadilla to come in and blow it, multiple times I saw. Especially toward the end of the season.
     
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    Yeah, I saw that, but my point is Blanton did similar stuff toward the end of the season as well. So wanting Blanton and not wanting Romo doesn't seem to jive because they were similar players last year.

    I guess I take a bit more realistic approach. Yeah Romo hosed the giants a few times last year but he still put up a sub 3 era and a WHIP that is pretty decent. So I would take a flyer on him based on the strength of our bullie and hope he puts up good numbers.
     
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    lastatman DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    I don't think they were at all similar last year. This is a case where numbers don't tell the whole story. Living in the Bay Area, I watch/hear a lot of Giant broadcasts, as well as listen to radio talk afterwards, and I can tell you that while Blanton was reliable for us except for the final series by which time he was clearly spent, Giants fans all held their collective breath when Romo came it. He didn't have blown saves because that wasn't his role, but he failed at his job a lot more than his ERA shows. Also, Blanton fills our need for an eighth inning setup man, which isn't addressed by the idea of Romo "hopefully" being able working through the 6th or 7th.
     
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    Romo as an option..it is what it is..perhaps Romo would be able to effectively waste an 0-2 pitch with the WS on the line ( unlike the great Blanton)
    Neither of these guys are moving any needles, that's the part of the off-season we're at now.
    If Blanton were as coveted as some think he is he'd already have a job.
    Now, Blanton was obviously solid for us, but Stripling could be as good or better moving forward in a similar role.
    LAD's pen is already likely to be strong with or without either.
    All in all, more than likely a bunch of drama for nada
     
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    I would like to see Dayton in the 8th inning roll.
     
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    agreed
    and you can't compare kenley and casilla based soley on blown saves
    especially since casilla's era is nearly double
     
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    2017 Steamer and ZiPS projections for Logan Forsythe
    by Matthew Moreno | Dodger Blue — 57 minutes ago

    Last month, the Los Angeles Dodgers addressed their most-pressing need at the time by trading for Logan Forsythe. On top of the versatile infielder serving as the answer at second base, Forsythe is projected to bat lead off this season.

    It’s a role he assumed on a full-time basis in 2016 for the first time in his career. Forsythe nonetheless did so successfully for the Tampa Bay Rays, batting .265/.335/.436 with 24 doubles, four triples, 20 home runs, 52 RBI, 46 walks and six stolen bases in 565 plate appearances.

    Forsythe started in the leadoff spot in 125 of his 127 games played last season. He used Spring Training to grow comfortable hitting atop the lineup, and expects to carry over the production now with the Dodgers.

    Whether batting leadoff or elsewhere in the order, Steamer and ZiPS 2017 projections call for a productive season from Forsythe:

    __________Avg___OBP___SLG___2B___HR__RBI__wOBA__wRC+
    Steamer__.258__.328__.415___19___12___60__.323__104
    ZiPS_____.259__.329__.421___21___15___50__.329__108 (OPS+)

    Overall last season, he batted .264/.333/.444 with the aforementioned 24 doubles, 20 home runs and 52 RBI. For the sabermetrically inclined, Forsythe posted a .336 wOBA, 113 wRC+ and 113 OPS+.

    Comparatively, Chase Utley, who was the Dodgers’ primary leadoff man in 2016, hit .252/.319/.396 with 26 doubles, 14 home runs, 52 RBI, a .312 wOBA, 97 wRC+ and 95 OPS+ in 138 games. He cooled considerably after a hot start to the season.

    Over parts of six seasons with the San Diego Padres and Rays, Forsythe is a career .255/.326/.395 batter, with 97 doubles, 55 home runs, 203 RBI and a 103 OPS+ 2,280 plate appearances.

    Beyond what value he is expected to bring on the field, Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman highlighted Forsythe’s mentality and style of play, believing he’s a good fit with the club.

    Friedman previously acquired Forsythe from the Padres as part of a seven-player trade in January 2014. Friedman then joined the Dodgers front office that October.
     
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    homo reportedly a Dodger fuck

    That's what's up. #Dodgers and Sergio Romo reportedly agree on contract
     
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    According to Jesse Sanchez. Ohhhhk. 1 year is alright
     
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    Jansen
    Romo
    Dayton
    Liberatore
    Baez
    Then two spots up for grabs
     
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    Romo? Oh, mein Gott...
    Maybe he'll be great against the SFags...Utley was damn good most of the time, and I hated him.
    But he wasn't a character from Tolkien.
    Damn.
    The motherfucker better not laugh if he fucks up and gets taken out.
     
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    Avilan likely gets one, as he has no options, then either Fields, Hatcher (no options), or Ravin, maybe both, if they only want 2 LHPs, and you know Dayton has the edge over Liberatore.

    Jansen
    Romo
    Dayton (projections love him)
    Baez
    Fields/Ravin
    Hatcher (no options)
    Avilan (again, no options)
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    Liberatore
    Stripling (probably a starter in OKC)
    Stewart (obviously a starter)
    Fields/Ravin
    Rhame

    This is my guess, assuming everyone is healthy, what I want wouldn't have Hatcher (replaced with other of Fields & Ravin), but would otherwise leave it.
     
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    Avilan is getting DFA'd. Early season Liberatore is great.
     
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    :burp:
     
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    So when he gets DFA'd , somebody will pick up a pretty damn good pitcher then, imo.
     
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