NEWS AND RUMORS THREAD

Discussion in 'Los Angeles DODGERS' started by lastatman, Oct 5, 2021.

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which free agents will the dodgers re-sign?

  1. scherzer

    50.0%
  2. taylor

    90.0%
  3. seager

    10.0%
  4. kenley

    40.0%
  5. kershaw

    50.0%
  6. pujols

    10.0%
  7. kelly*

    40.0%
  8. knebel

    60.0%
  9. souza

    10.0%
  10. nelson

    10.0%
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  1. jpldodgers

    jpldodgers DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    @JeffPassan Superutilityman Chris Taylor and the Los Angeles Dodgers are making progress on a deal, sources familiar with the situation tell ESPN. It’s expected to be completed today.
     
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    Done deal, Taylor coming back.
     
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    Very cool
    CT back needed to happen
    Now for the lockout
     
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    Yeah this one bugs me too but 10mil?
    Guess they are saving up for toomgis
     
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  5. irish

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    we gave $7M to a far inferior hudson, so knebel would have easily been worth the extra $3M
     
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  6. Bluezoo

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    Screwing the pooch much ?
    Love the Scherzer call out of this over rated sack of shit moron Roberts. About time someone spoke the deal real with this sham.
    Idk...the only thing that might save this off season is Freeman...that would be nice.
     
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    I don’t know why you think that was Doc’s decision. He’s following Fraudman’s playbook. He’s a puppet, and we all know he is
    Regardless of that, Everything Scherzer said about that situation was full of shit and inaccurate
     
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    jpldodgers DSP Legend Staff Member Moderator

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    4/60 for Taylor is a fucking steal. I am shocked that’s all it took
     
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    totally agree
    max was deflecting and making excuses
    if he was wanting to be worked harder then he should have said so like any ass master
    now if corey was to say his lack of leadership entered into the decision to leave beyond the taxes well...
    he'd be my hero forever
     
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    MLB.com and mlb network have resorted to showing no images or videos of any current player
     
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    There may be validity to your response, indeed. I admit, that any anti info about Roberts is corralled by me as written in stone, because I do feel, as the Max post season breakdown occurred, it was Roberts cultivation all the way...A to Z. Not inaccurate, just Max's take on it.
    However, the possibility of Max using him as the cause, could be totally or partially a ploy.
    ...and whether it is or not, it worked fucking spectacularly, since his new contract is history making.
    Whether or not it made a difference on us keeping Max or not, I don't know. I tend not to think he was ever staying.
    Hasn't even Roberts publicly admitted his mishandling of the pitching staff in the post ? Max was sure front and center, or totally missing in that shit show, in my book.
    I just believe with the teams assembled for him during his tenure, with the Covid Championship as the sum of it, Roberts is as minimal results as it gets.
     
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    I gotta say something about Scherzer’s statements.

    First, I loathe Roberts as a manager. He makes me pine for Mattingly sometimes, and that’s bad.

    Second, Roberts severely mismanaged the entire pitching staff in the playoffs. There is really no doubt about it.

    BUT, if Scherzer is saying that the Dodgers mismanaged his pitch count, that the restraint on the pitch count prior to the playoffs reduced his ability to pitch in the playoffs, then that is full on BULLSH*T.

    If anyone has any power over pitch count and how long Scherzer would stay in a game, it’s Scherzer, and maybe more than any other pitcher in the league. He is infamous for telling off managers who try to pull him from a game. After Randy Johnson retired, I can’t think of a bigger red-ass than Scherzer. He was fully in control of when he went and how he pitched.

    Also, I have never heard of a case of dead arms because of too few pitches thrown during the regular season. If there was dead arm bad enough for Scherzer not to go, that is Scherzer’s call. For someone who is 37-38, I don’t think more pitches would have lessoned the chance for dead arm. Or just pitch simulated games on non-starting nights then. This whole pitch count is nonsense.

    Finally, I see a lot of double dealing by Scherzer. He just signed an absurd contract, and it seems he is placing the blame on someone else for his inability to perform when it counted in the Atlanta series. And this was a bad sign of possible things to come. If I were the Mets, I would be worried about his long term viability. But no, it’s the Dodgers’ fault. I call BS. This is his way of preventing buyers remorse from the Mets.

    Finally, Max is one of the key player reps for the CB negotiations. It’s pretty convenient and coincidental(?) that he gets this massive retirement contract just ahead of the lockout, which means other players are in limbo with respect to their situation. Of course this will affect the bread and butter, less known players, you know….the ones you are supposed to represent!

    So you got your sweet deal, and everyone else will be left with the crumbs of whatever comes out of the negotiations. This is another reason I really dislike how Scherzer shat on the organization that saved him from a bad Nationals team. I just see a lot of double talk and hypocrisy.

    Dude, just collect your money and smile. Don’t crap on the people you left.
     
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    i think scherzer despised roberts from the beginning, didn’t like the way he (mis)managed the staff, and made up his mind early that he wasn’t coming back
    i also think the tired arm syndrome was simply an excuse to not have to pitch and risk injury
    but regardless of the validity of scherzer’s remarks the other day, one thing remains undeniable… roberts is a horrible manager
     
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    I’m pretty sure if the dodgers offered 3/130 and the Mets offered a 2 year contract, that he would be a dodger right now. It never is about anything more than money for 95% of these players, I don’t blame them for it but I just wish they would all stop sugarcoating it. The him playing closer to home for 1 month in spring training, and Corey Seager knowing Chris Woodward his whole life playing parts, that is all time filling media talk that is a bunch of bullshit.
    I don’t think Scherzer’s tired arm was a sign of him giving up. I think it’s a sign of his body giving up on him because he’s old as fuck. He said he was throwing every 5 days and throwing 110 pitches every start in 2019 when he had a good playoff run. Well he also pitched the second least amount of regular season innings of any full season he pitched that year.

    im gonna continue to say the same thing about Roberts that I believe to be mostly true. He’s a puppet, he’s given a game plan from Friedman that he strictly follows. If you think Roberts is a horrible manager, you should probably think Friedman is a horrible manager. You can fire Roberts but the same problems will persist with the next guy they bring in. Friedman only needs and wants someone who won’t lose the clubhouse
     
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    rosenthal…
    • Chris Taylor’s camp told other teams this AM that money wasn’t driving factor. He wanted to stay with LAD.
     
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    A game plan is one thing. Most/all front offices voice their input. But what about what happens on the field; in-game situations that require quick decisions? Did Friedman call down a make Roberts pull Rich Hill in the middle of a perfect game? Does he call pitches? Does he decide who pinch hits and when?

    Yeah, no. You're mad at Friedman because he didn't re-sign Scherzer and your man crush Seager. You're blaming him for Roberts ineptness, and you're hating on Taylor because he's not Corey. Your anger has made you delusional. Root for the name on the front of the jersey.
     
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    Friedman has debunked the theory that he is in control of the decisions made during a game many times
     
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    To the point where he basically called davey a liar after he said he wasn't the only one making in game decisions.
     
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    I’m delusional? Your mind is twisted, just like everyone that just resorts to blaming Roberts outside the heat of the moment, like you, don’t get it. Friedman didn’t do any of those things, but he gave him a game plan that says take Rich Hill out after this number of pitches or in this situation. Hit for person A or person B in this situation or that situation. There’s literally a game plan for all of it. Doc doesn’t make those decisions based on feel, he does it based on the matchups. None of them worked because the Dodgers had the shittiest bench of the Friedman era this season. Pitch Max Scherzer in the ninth of Game 5 or Urias in Game 2? You really think that was Doc’s idea and not part of the game plan going into it? Come on now

    I don’t have any problem with Chris Taylor. I just see things that other people ignore and ahh I’m delusional for wanting to keep the player that is tracking to be a future HOFer that is just now entering his prime. The thing is, I don’t give a shit about the cost when the Dodgers have a 230 million dollar per year local TV deal, plus the 9 figures they get from national TV money, plus all the ticket sales and merchandise sales that are surely more than any other team in this league. They are flowing in cash. They can afford to go 100 million over the luxury tax. He was literally our best hitter. Chris Taylor has already peaked, his defense is declining, and he has a 28% strikeout rate. He’s valuable because he can fill in at several positions when we predictably have all of the injuries that we do. He’s not necessarily replaceable, but he’s easier to replace than Corey Seager. What happens if Trea goes to the market and walks too? His aav gonna be higher than Seager’s because he will be in a market by himself. We don’t have a farm system deep in high end talent like we used to.
     
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    Are we going to see Lux at 2B next season or will they keep trying to force him into the OF? I guess if the Freeman thing materializes (long shot), then eventually Muncy returns and plays second. But short of that I'd like to see Gavin on the dirt. And what about 3B? Turner was great for the first half, but I think age caught up with him down the stretch and I don't see that being any different next season. Hopefully there's a plan for that.

    It pains me to see Corey sign elsewhere, but I get it - we throw that kind of money at him, how do we resign others that we need to hold onto. Very glad to see CT back next season - the guy's versatility is just so critical to this team. Now, let's get Kersh resigned... he needs to retire in Blue.
     
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