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  1. sleepy floyd

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    His 1st start against the Halos wasn't all that bad either, but I had hope for him too because of how he looked coming off the DL and his career track record. I mean the dude was no bum before this season.


    Likewise, but pretty much just based on greed. Hah Never did I feel like we absolutely needed either one.

    In essence, during the season it's been a big money approach to reasonable 40 man roster development for them. If they need to be more careful about anything, it's the kind of character that these guys have. Latos has burned bridges at just about every stop, but they probably had insight there and a good feeling for how much damage he could do being that Byrnes had him for a year in SD. I'm guessing that they felt there was minimal risk. If they had put all their eggs in his basket...then we'd have a problem.
     
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    The Dodgers are continuing to enact broader organizational changes, this time to the minor league staff. As MLB.com’s Ken Gurnick reports, the organization is shaking up its coaching and instructor ranks. Director of player development Gabe Kapler says that the club “wanted to bring in some new voices in key areas.” Last we checked in, Los Angeles had begun turning over its international scouting department.
     
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    Starlin Castro murked the Cards today. 6 RBI
     
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    You're wrong. The bullpen failed only because of the position that idiot Bartman put them into. Instead of being two outs with one on, it's 1st and 2nd and only one out after Castillo walks. That's a huge difference.

    What do the other fans around him have to do with anything??? He's the one who interfered and deserves everything he's gotten.

    Of course Moises Alou was pissed. Every person in Wrigley Field that game was over right then and there. If Alou catches that ball, all the momentum swings to the Cubs and they're in the World Series.

    Doesn't matter if it was eight runs or eighty runs. After Bartman's selfish act, the game was over.

    Take a good look at what I'm saying and you'll see I'm right. And if disagree, then you clearly don't know baseball.
     
  5. jerrysback

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    They were the better team. They were five outs away from the World Series when Bartman lost the game for them. And they would have won the World Series pal.
     
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    Thank you. Finally someone who gets it.
     
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    and if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle
    prior and the bullpen failed on their own
    bartman had nothing to do with that


    their intent was the same; to get that foul ball
    they could just as easily touched that ball


    everyone in wrigley knew it was over right then and there???
    alou is a fucken crybaby
    if prior throws a ground ball after walking castillo he still gets out of the inning unscathed
    but instead he throw a wild pitch and gives up an rbi single
    to be fair, he then gets the ground ball to get out of the inning but his ss kicks it, and then gives up a double
    from there the pen completely shits the bed


    it does matter
    should have been 1 run
    they choked and made bartman a scapegoat
    shame on them :mirror:


    we all know baseball, yourself included
    we just don't agree
     
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    Wrong. Bartman put them in the position to lose. His antics caused the momentum to shift from the Cubs to the Marlins. I wasn't there but you could feel it even on TV. Those other fans didn't reach out onto the field of play, Bartman did. Yes Prior and the Cubs bullpen failed. But that was solely because of what Bartman did. It was clear to anyone watching that he affected them. You guys are just being stubborn. He's not a scapegoat, he is the reason they lost that night and the next night. You say you know baseball but it sure doesn't sound like it to me.
     
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    the bartman play was unfortunate... for him
    but the cubs lost that game, not him
    would have taken a real man to have stood u and been accountable
    dusty could have done it, prior could have done it, alou could have done it
    but instead they chose to put it on bartman
    apparently that's what losers do
     
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    Maddon upset with Cards' 'vigilante' hit on Rizzo
    Joe Maddon unleashed a tirade directed at the Cardinals after they hit Anthony Rizzo with a pitch Friday. "We're not going to put up with that from them or anyone else," the Cubs manager said.




    Take a number and get in line, Maddon.
     
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    Hate the fucking Cards, but maybe Rizzo shouldn't stand over the plate like a tool.
     
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    I'm watching that game tomorrow. Gotta a feeling somethin will be poppin off. They've been playing that '08 Rays/Red Sox brawl over and over on ESPN because of Maddon. Coco Crisp was a loon back then. Lmao Rays whooped his head like old school nWo in WCW. Smh He walked outta there with matching black eyes. Dioner Navarro basically QB sacked his ass and Jonny Gomes was elite.
     
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    ^^Up until recently, the Dodgers have been trying to re-create that same night fucking swinging for the fences every AB. Since Seager was called up it seems this team has been having a different approach at the plate all together. Good shit. Let's do it in the post!! :D
     
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    Kershaw, Greinke could go down as one of the 10 greatest duos ever
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    Posted: Thu Sep. 17, 2015

    Considering their dominant performances this year, Zack Greinke and Clayton Kershaw have sparked considerable debate as to which Dodger ace deserves the National League Cy Young Award. But beyond the accolade lies another compelling question: Where do Greinke and Kershaw rank among the great single-season pitching tandems in history?

    One way to answer this question is by looking at Wins Above Replacement. TheFangraphs version of WAR focuses on the main factors over which pitchers have control, scales them against a common baseline level, and adjusts accordingly, depending on park factors and run environment. By setting aside team defense and accounting for other variables, the metric provides a solid starting point for comparing Greinke and Kershaw with their counterparts from different eras.

    Below, we see the top 25 single-season pitching tandems since 1956 — when the Cy Young Award was established — through today. (A “tandem” is defined as the two starters with the highest WAR on the rotation.) Each tandem must be at a “superstar” level (i.e., have at least 5 WAR) to ensure a genuine partnership of aces, and the hurlers must also be teammates for the entire season.



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    As we can see, Greinke and Kershaw already crack the top 25 with 13 WAR, even though they’ve only made 58 starts and completed 408 2/3 innings. What’s more, Fangraphs estimates that they’ll have another eight starts and 48 innings before the season ends. If they generate an additional 1.3 WAR, as projected, their 14.3 total will boost their ranking to 13th.


    And given the relatively conservative nature of the projection (e.g., Greinke and Kershaw have averaged 7 innings per start, not 6), it’s reasonable to say that they have a legitimate shot at the top 10.

    Of course, a holistic metric like WAR can sometimes obscure important nuances in player performance. After adjusting for park and league factors, the pair also compares favorably to duos from other eras.

    Specifically, Greinke and Kershaw have a combined 2.39 fielding independent pitching, which is 36 percentage points better than league average in 2015. This “64 FIP-” is sixth-best on the list. The mark lies in close proximity to the Diamondbacks’ Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling, who had consecutive FIP- marks below 60 in 2001 and 2002.


    As Dave Cameron has shown, there’s value in breaking down FIP and analyzing how well pitchers do in each of its major components: strikeouts, walks, and home runs (hit batters are also tracked, but they have low totals). In all three areas, Greinke and Kershaw rank among the top 10.

    Most notably, their strikeout and home run rates are 45 and 39 percentage points better than league average — seventh best in both categories. The high strikeout rate is driven largely by Kershaw, of course, who has 264 Ks already, and is vying to be the first pitcher to reach 300 since Johnson and Schilling reached the milestone 13 years ago. Meanwhile, the low home run rate is attributable mainly to Greinke. A mere 7 percent of his fly balls have left the yard, placing him fourth among qualified starters this season.


    Overall, when we piece everything back together, it seems that Greinke and Kershaw are poised to claim their place among the ten best pitching duos over the past six decades. Even a more conventional analysis supports their case. With a combined 1.87 ERA, they outperform the league average by 50 percentage points, which puts them atop the list. Greinke alone is at a historically low 1.61, chasing the likes of Pedro Martinez, Bob Gibson, and Greg Maddux.


    To be sure, this analysis is far from perfect. In recent years, with the advent of new technologies and methods, we’ve gained a better understanding of how FIPcomponents themselves are often dependent on factors beyond the pitcher’s control. For instance, catcher framing and umpire bias can influence strikeouts. On the flip side, while hitters are predominantly in control of batted ball velocities, pitchers still have some measurable effect on them. These issues are far from cut and dry. If they make it difficult to isolate pitching from everything else, then we can only imagine how much more challenging it is to evaluate pairs of starters — let alone across time.

    Nevertheless, given what we have, Greinke and Kershaw emerge in a more-than-positive light by historical standards. Their collective efforts should be trumpeted far more than the supposed Cy Young rivalry for which they’ve shown little concern.
     
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    Meant to post that in the Cy Young thread.. my bad bros :smh:
     
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    This also happened in 2006 haha

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