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  1. Praetan

    Praetan Well-Known Member

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    Hi all! So real quick. I haven't been around here in a few years. I haven't read any of the threads so I apologize if this has been talked about. I'm sure I'm not the only one to think of it.

    Backstory:
    My friend asked me if getting Harper would make me feel better about the recent trade with the Reds. I said, "no, not really".

    Months ago when I was asked about resigning Machado. I said, "He's just a rental, no thanks".

    That said, this scenario came to me today and I wanted to share it.

    Give up the farm for JT Realmuto
    Start preserving Justin Turner now and he moves to 1st
    Max Muncy plays 2nd with Kike Hernandez platoon/def replacement
    Seager is back at SS
    Sign Machado (I know, don't judge me) for 3B
    Bellinger CF
    Chris Taylor/Joc Pederson play LF
    and the final piece...Bryce Harper RF

    Lineup vs RHP
    Pederson LF
    Turner 1B
    Machado 3B
    Harper RF
    Seager SS
    Bellinger CF
    Muncy 2B
    Realmuto C

    Lineup vs LHP
    Taylor LF
    Turner 1B
    Machado 3B
    Harper RF
    Seager SS
    Realmuto C
    Hernandez 2B
    Bellinger CF

    vs Lefties is a bit more interesting as there are a lot of interchangeable parts but ultimately there has to be an unfavorable Lefty vs Lefty in there. The upside to this lineup is better defense though so this is just how I drew it up.

    Rotation:
    Kershaw
    Buehler
    Ryu
    Hill
    Maeda
    Stripling

    Pen:
    Stripling (1-7 as needed)
    Floro/Baez/Ferguson/Cingrani (3-7)
    Kelly (8)
    Jansen (9)

    Bench:
    Freese
    Hernandez/Muncy
    Pederson/Taylor
    Barnes

    That rounds out the 25 man roster. That was fun. I think I'd be ok with the Reds trade if this happened.
     
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    Dodgers created space in the outfield, is Bryce Harper next?
    by Tim Brown | Yahoo Sports MLB columnist — 21 December 2018
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    The Los Angeles Dodgers, the men who lead them and those who wear the uniform, have been around long enough to know what comes now. There’ll be no fawning over the new young players sent by the Cincinnati Reds, not yet. There’ll be a wistful moment or two held on behalf of outfielders Yasiel Puig and Matt Kemp, but only a moment or two, and even those will be spent in distraction.

    What comes now is the question — What’s next? — and even then not so much a question as a fistful of shirt collar and a spit-flecked cheek.

    Meaning, it’d better be good.

    If you wondered whether playing late-October and early-November baseball would ever get old, come to L.A., where patience sways like a food truck in a summer storm.

    Four days from Christmas, 54 days since Chris Sale put Manny Machado on a knee, the Dodgers announced they had signed free-agent reliever Joe Kelly, which was fine, and then appeared to dig the toe hold for a more assertive tomorrow.

    Out went Matt Kemp and Yasiel Puig. Out went Alex Wood and Kyle Farmer. In came the two prospects — Jeter Downs and Josiah Gray, neither of whom played above Class A in 2018, and Homer Bailey, the veteran and conveniently salaried right-hander who, for the past three broken seasons, has pitched closer to his hat size than the league’s median ERA and will eventually be released.

    Money came and went, mostly went, and in the end the Dodgers were more than $20 million under the competitive balance tax threshold of $206 million.

    Just last season the Dodgers had surprised everyone by explaining they knew — and cared about — what the competitive balance tax threshold was, the second part of the surprise being they intended to bring their payroll in under it, the third part being — gasp — it looked like they were going to do it again in 2019. And they might. It’s just that these sorts of nickel-and-dime decisions in a city of this size wrapped around a stadium that sells out propped up by a television deal that has been great for the owner (and insulting for the fan), all resting in the palm of a franchise that hasn’t won in more than 30 years, well, nobody’s worried the Dodgers are going to go bankrupt. Again.

    So, on an otherwise lazy Friday afternoon, with still more than half of the top 50 free agents unsigned, with still more opportunity for significant trades, the Dodgers created space in their outfield and starting rotation and budget.

    For Bryce Harper. By some standards the game’s lone superstar, by some voices eager to play in L.A., by any measure the finest available talent, Harper could be had. The Dodgers lack only the recent history for such a commitment, for lashing themselves to a massive financial play when they’d rather win with the long game, with waves of talent deployed over six or seven months. A not unreasonable query is what Harper today might cost them in tomorrow’s organizational depth and economic dry powder, in how much a lone man can influence an entire baseball season when the world is filled with perfectly capable platoon men, all for a guy who can’t seem to decide if he’s a .245 or .330 hitter. But, it’s there. He’s there. He can be great, and should be great, and sometimes it seems like the city was built so guys like Bryce Harper would have a place to wear expensive sunglasses.

    For Corey Kluber. The Cleveland Indians appear to have created enough payroll space so they’d have to be convinced to deal their two-time Cy Young Award winner, especially since over the next three seasons he’ll be making about half what, say, Clayton Kershaw will. This is, however, why a club creates for itself space and flexibility and a reasonable farm system, how hard decisions become easy ones, when a bucket of next year is worth an ocean of the year after. Nobody regrets anything on the deck of a parade float.

    For J.T. Realmuto. Yeah, same thing as Kluber, give or take 60 feet.

    For Craig Kimbrel.
    Maybe not Kimbrel. But Adam Ottavino or Zach Britton or David Robertson or Kelvin Herrera. Or two of them. Because if there’s anything the Dodgers learned over two Octobers, it’s that the starting pitchers don’t always pitch to the reliable part of the bullpen. So, lengthen the starter or lengthen the bullpen. Maybe Kimbrel.

    For A.J. Pollock. Look, as outfields go, and particularly as Dodger outfields go, there is flexibility and there is chaos. The Dodgers teetered to the latter. Pollock is a nice player with a weakness for staying upright. You don’t sign Pollock without also having a healthy supply of chaos.

    For D.J. LeMahieu. Yeah, the home-road splits monster gets him. But, you know what LeMahieu hit on the road in 2016, the year he won the batting title? .303. Know what he hit on the road in 2017? .294. He plays second base, Max Muncy plays first base, Cody Bellinger plays center field, Kiké Hernández does what Kiké Hernández does, and Bellinger returns to first base if Muncy’s breakout season becomes known as his outlier season.

    That’s what’s next. That’s what answers the question, the one that’s lingered since another group of men held another party on the only lawn that’s ever mattered to generations of baseball fans amid the food trucks. Maybe it’s not Harper. Probably it’s not Harper. You’d be stunned if it were Harper. But, then, there was a reason for Friday, too, and it might have been for something good.
     
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    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    good to see you man

    imo...
    no way i'd sign machado
    friedman just rid us of three malcontents, doubt he wants to re-sign another
    fuck realmuto... costs too much and all we need is a stop gap until ruiz/white are mlb ready
    use those same trade chips to get kluber
    leave turner at 3b
    taylor/kiké >>> max at 2b
    just my .02
     
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    We get Machado and Harper. ???? In your world ?
    I want to be in that one, too...
     
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    i might have farted
    then again i may have shat myself :confused:
     
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    Snapped his fingers and made them disappear. Real life Thanos
     
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    posted <1 hr ago
    but morosi so fwiw...


    Dodgers still discussing Kluber trade
    Club also seeks right-handed impact bat after blockbuster
    by Jon Paul Morosi | MLB.com — 43 minutes ago

    It's rare that a blockbuster trade is the opening salvo of a team's offseason, rather than the culmination.

    The Dodgers -- with a strong farm system and vast financial resources -- aren't a typical franchise.

    Friday's seven-player trade between the Dodgers and Reds raised more questions than it answered about the Dodgers' 2019 roster. Saturday, sources indicated that the Dodgers remain in contact with the Indians about a trade that would send Cleveland ace Corey Kluber to Los Angeles.

    The Dodgers won't trade Cody Bellinger -- on whom they have five years of control before free agency -- for Kluber, whose term could stretch to 2021 through club options. However, one source indicated the Dodgers are willing to discuss outfield prospect Alex Verdugo as part of a Kluber trade.

    The Dodgers also are likely to add an impact right-handed bat, as Bob Nightengale of USA Today reported Saturday. The Dodgers seek platoon advantages in their lineup construction and have a clear need to become more right-handed, through adding an outfielder, second baseman and/or catcher.

    If Verdugo is dealt, the Dodgers likely would replace him with a right-handed hitter via free agency or trade. To that end, the Dodgers have shown interest in trading for Tigers right fielder Nicholas Castellanos, one source said.

    Castellanos, 27, is coming off a career-best offensive year and will become a free agent following the 2019 season. A trade for Castellanos is plausible for the Dodgers now that Yasiel Puig and Matt Kemp -- who accounted for 152 of the Dodgers' 163 regular-season starts in right field -- have moved on to Cincinnati.

    The Dodgers also have shown interest in trading for Marlins catcher J.T. Realmuto and signing free-agent second baseman DJ LeMahieu, sources say.

    Jon Paul Morosi is a columnist for MLB.com.
     
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    Let's say they each got 35M anually. That brings us up to 250M for the roster. We we at 242M in 2017. It's really not that far fetched. The money is there and we just cleared our tax penalty.
     
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    Ok, bro...make it happen.
    Get Ray Donovan if need be.
     
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    Constructive response. Well thought out. Glad you chimed in.
     
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    funny story, but totally unrelated
    went to a yes concert at the forum in 1977 with the crowd about 99% stoners
    so this guy and his band opened up for them and at first people were mocking them
    then people started saying "hey, these guys are pretty good!"
    three encores later people were asking "who the fuck was that?!!!"
    after the concert, everyone in attendance agreed... donovan blew yes away
     
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    Well thought out?
    Really?
    As good as your " we we at"?
     
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    I feel like there's no way we sign Harper. Maybe just me being pessimistic as usual but I'd be shocked.
     
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    So Yankees sign Machado and trade us Stanton for Hill, Stripling, and Brock while taking back a third of his contract.

    1B: Bellinger
    SS: Seager
    3B: Turner
    RF: Harper
    LF: Stanton
    2B: Muncy
    CF: Verdugo
    C : Smith

    Bench: Freese, Joc, Kike, Taylor, Barnes
    Muncy can start at 2B and get taken out for defensive purposes if the team has a lead. Or he can be moved to 1B and Bellinger can sit or bump someone out of the OF since Stanton will get worse in the OF as he ages.
     
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    Camello would break The Lakers too, if they let him! :D :D :D
     
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    Mike Petriello threw out an interesting idea, and what might actually be going on.

    We've heard Nick Castellanos linked to the Dodgers more than once, however, he's awful defensively making him less appealing to an NL team, but who needs probably multiple OFs and has the luxury of the DH? Cleveland.

    No, i'm not saying they would trade Kluber to LA, for Castellanos going to Cleveland and some young pieces going to Detroit.

    Like maybe the Indians & Dodgers send lower-level high upside minor leagues to DET (hint hint: like the guys the Dodgers just traded for) and the Dodgers send guys closer to or in the majors to Cleveland.

    EDIT: This would be the Andrew Friedman special 3-team, 12 player trade.
     
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    I somehow feel like this is Rube's alternate account.
     
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    Lmao at the Simpsons Sax reference.
     
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