DODGERS Grade the Nerds

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Grade the Nerds

Poll closed Nov 5, 2016.
  1. A

    6 vote(s)
    16.2%
  2. B

    16 vote(s)
    43.2%
  3. C

    3 vote(s)
    8.1%
  4. D

    5 vote(s)
    13.5%
  5. F

    7 vote(s)
    18.9%
  1. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    brilliant
    5 years is not only fair, it's perfect...
    $128MM in salary for agon/ethier/puig/mehcarthy/ryu/arrubuena will be off the books after next season
    that gives the nerds an additional two full years without financial limitations
    now i'm not saying they need to go right out there and spend it all
    but if there's someone good available and they don't spend... then fuck them all
    friedman came with all this praise from tampa, and was given props for contending without the funds
    well now he/they will have those funds...
    i've given them an a/b grade so far because they have had to deal with the aforementioned albatross contracts and others (wilson, carl, kemp) that they had to eat a bunch of $$$ on
    but that grade will go south quickly if they don't spend some of that newfound $128MM
    and i disagree with those that may say "it's not our money"
    because we fans are the ones putting it in their pockets
    you're supposed to get what you pay for
    and we're near 30 years waiting
    get it done bkitches
     
  2. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    btw i think this is totally fair
    what they're doing is (hopefully) a work in progress
    :waiting:
     
  3. darth550

    darth550 Baba Yaga

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    That's why I go less often and bring in my own food when I do. If they ever forbid that then they can take their cold, over rated inning + wait hot dogs and fuck off.
     
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  4. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    yeah their stadium food is a joke
    would be one thing if it was good
    but to pay serious coin for shit food :crazy:
     
  5. BlueMouse

    BlueMouse 2020 World Champions

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    I think all of those players, except Ethier, are on our books for 2 more seasons. Of course, they don't get a pass with McCarthy because they signed him. Overall, the extra salary they have covers that dead weight just fine. What is starting to concern me is the amount of deadweight our current FO is piling up on their own. It will be nice when we get out from under all the bandaid moves ownership made when they first took over, but it won't mean much if we pile up just as much dead salary in injured pitchers and Cubans.
     
  6. darth550

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    They should have In n out burger there. LA place in DS. I found a new spot that has BOMB sandwiches next to Philippe's. Saw it on DDD. People freak out when they see it and wonder where I got it.

    http://littlejewel.la/
     
  7. irish

    irish DSP Staff Member Administrator

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    you're right
    i misread/misspoke
    http://www.truebluela.com/2013/10/21/4861112/los-angeles-dodgers-payroll
     
  8. rube

    rube DSP Legend Staff Member Administrator

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    Dude, have you ever head me call them geniuses?
    You call them that so much i must assume it gets you off in some way.
    Just have a convo where you give your opinion, an honest one not one couched in prefabricated snark.
    If you just want to bitch all day then i guess you arent trying to actually have a conversation.
    As in you dont want solutions or truth, you just want to complain that you dont have what you want.
    This isnt the welfare office. This is baseball.
     
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    But it's a baseball website..:whistle:
     
  10. Sal Inman

    Sal Inman Guest

    You guys are too critical of your team. They're one of the best in baseball and they're only going to get better. Plus you have the best pitcher I've ever seen. I think your future is a lot brighter than you see.
     
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  11. rube

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    Which is fine. We all bitch and complain sometimes.
    But BZ isnt progressing at all past the 'geniuses snarf snarf' angle.
    Makes it kinda hard to engage him in a conversation.
    We arent sad little cubs fans.
    We are DODGERS fans.
    Sad little cubs fans are the ones who are all about 'woe is me, can i have a WS please, its been so looong'.
    Fans need to have a closers mentality or else they turn into sad cubs fan.
    I hope Kershaw doesnt think about all his bad playoff outings next year when we make the playoffs.
    I hope he doesnt give a fuck.
    As soon as the season is done i stop caring about the fact that we didnt win.
    Its now next season.
    And if i go into this new season caring about the fact that we didnt win the WS or that we havent won since 88 then im going in hamstrung.
    I really wanted us to win a WS during the Piazza/Beltre years. Man i wanted one soo bad.
    But im very very happy with my Dodgers and the fact that 1988 happened.
    Not only did we win but it was one of the most memorable wins in the history of the game.
    1988 means a hell of a lot more than what most other teams have done since.
    At least to me. An LA Dodgers fan.
     
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    On a baseball website, prefabricated snark, not that I agree with you, is so much of what it is written about.
    And your suggestion, of having an honest conversation, is exactly what I did...you just didn't like it, that's all. It's not your honesty, as you see fit.
    I never wrote that you said they were geniuses...although I didn't keep tabs...but are you serious ? That's been kicked around over and over on this site since they got here. Two years, maybe...it's in a post above.
    You have the solutions to the ongoing failure? Lol. Or anyone else? If it doesn't fit in your warm flow, then it's not a legit conversation? Could say the same to you, but people post what they want. There's always someone bitchin about it because they don't like it , y' know? They must get off on it...
    The welfare office...? I guess that's just over my head Rube...no sense bitchin about it though...whatever you mean.
     
  13. rube

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    You dont have an argument other than to sarcastically call them geniuses.
    Its been a tired trope almost since it started.
    Your answer to everything is that they are geniuses.
    What are we supposed to take from that?
    Its kicked around mostly by you and a small amount of other posters because some ESPN hacks called them that a good while back.
    You mock them for being smart, and use the fact that they are considered smart as your shield for expecting them not to fail.
    That some weird ass reverse psychological juju you playing.
    They must win the WS or else 'snarf snarf look at them stupid geniuses who cant win a WS snarf snarf'.
    You think their plan sucks.
    That their plan deserves an F.
    I ask you for an alternative.
    And you go into ' geniuses!' mode.
    My point with 'conversation' is that in all this genius talk i really dont understand what it is you are trying to say.
    Like, what is your opinion?
    Other than that they suck.
    Because i can get that level of opinion from 14 year olds.
    As always i expect some more cogent conversation from certain types.
    You being one of them.
     
  14. rube

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    Were you mocking the geniuses too in the beginning of the year?
    Because you seem to agree with Friedmans plan.
    And i think you recently gave them an A/B rating.
    Which shows a true appreciation of your Dodgers team.
    Like someone with an actual opinion and not just a reaction.
     
  15. Bluezoo

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    So you get up and over at a different rate and "progress" at a different rate than I do, or maybe the next guy does. It certainly doesn't mean everyone else can be in lock step with you on your thing, when you are.
    If I'm still stinging over that showing we went out there with in the post, and you 're are not, then good for you. And whatever you think about anyone who isn't, doesn't matter, imo. If your passed it, great. Some aren't.
    I've had lots of teams and times and favorite players when I craved a championship, too...you think that is only you? Not that it gives any gravitas, but I was a Dodger fan before you were born...you think I never hurt over all these years when they did nothing? I know how to be a proud Dodger fan, just as much as anyone else.
    People deal with it in different ways...and tbh, that genius thing was a jest that time, actually, but you sure got insulting about it...
    I know this is lost on you, but your truest feelings about the Dodgers, just because they are optimistic as mine aren't, are no deeper heartfelt than mine are. And I've been coming back, no matter what, way longer than you have.
     
  16. irish

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    i was :duck:
     
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    I basically just posted that to dig BZ because he always says it.. all in good fun...
     
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    It's LA. What do you expect?
     
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    I dont think they arent heartfelt or genuine at all. I know you care. Im sure you care a lot more than me.
    That isnt anywhere near the point though.
    Neither is anything else you said. I said I many times, which means me. I dont expect others to be like me.
    Nor am i asking anyone to be in lockstep with me. You are trying to make grossly exagerated claims to make your argument like usual.
    Im talking about progress over 29 years and you say that im asking for people to march lockstep lol?
    But yes even you BZ will some day have to get over not winning a title since 88.
    Which means going into a new season with fresh eyes and actual optimism.
    Whose fruits would be you not being so cynical about progress unless that progress can compare with something that happened in 88.
    Comparing the success/failure of your favorite team to the championship run in 88 is no progress at all.
    So im not asking for lockstep rah rah excitement out of you, just not the same debbie downer attitude without even trying to make your case.
    Being critical is fine, its even great. I love it. But have a take and dont suck. Which means just have a take and try to make your argument.
    Mocking the FO for being nerds or for not being geniuses doesnt really cut it. Never has.
     
  20. darth550

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    I'm certainly glad I'm getting a pass on this Rube, since FUCKTARDS is a way more accurate and nonsarcastic description. ;)
     
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