MINOR LEAGUE/PROSPECTS Thread

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  1. ColoradoKidWitGame

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    He's been in their camp working out and when it was rumored he had met with the Padres brass 3 or 4 days in a row, it came out that he was likely going to wait until the July 2nd deadline to sign. So a lot of signs point that way.
     
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    :mad: So what do you think it is?
    LAD not high enough on him, him not being high on LAD or his chances of making it to the show within a " reasonable " time frame because of all the other young OF'ers?
    Or is it that SD just beat LAD to him?
     
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    Bad advice basically. Maybe his family is well off so he doesn't need the high dollar teams to bid on him?
     
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    No clue, but his agent did leave him for the death threats so things could change. He sounds like a bit of a mess, just like Martinez was, so the Dodgers may not have been overly high on him. Sounds like the Padres are going to be spending a ton of money in the next signing period so they may be offering him a lot more than the Dodgers are willing to give.
     
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    Damn, so what are you hearing about the price for Lazarito?
    In that Alvarez area, about 15MM?
     
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    No Clue, I haven't heard anything other than it looks like he will not sign until July 2.
     
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    Breaking down the Dodgers' 2016 Top 30 Prospects
    Los Angeles ranks No. 1 among all farm systems
    by Jim Callis | MLB.com — 49 minutes ago

    Based on shortstop Corey Seager and left-hander Julio Urias alone, the Dodgers might claim a spot in MLBPipeline.com's top 10 farm-system evaluations. But their talent extends well beyond baseball's top prospect and second-best pitching prospect, and that's why they rank No. 1.

    Los Angeles had a number of players boost their stock significantly in 2015, headlined by right-hander Jose De Leon and first baseman Cody Bellinger. De Leon led the Minors with 12.8 strikeouts per nine innings in his first full year in full-season ball, while Bellinger exploded for 30 homers as a 19-year-old in Class A Advanced, after totaling four in his first two pro seasons. The club's top two picks in the 2014 Draft, righty Grant Holmes and outfielder Alex Verdugo, had fine years in Class A and look like burgeoning stars.

    The system has much more depth than a year ago, too. The Dodgers went on an international spending spree in 2015, committing more than $150 million in bonuses, guaranteed salaries and tax penalties to land right-hander Yadier Alvarez and outfielders Yusniel Diaz and Starling Heredia, among many others (including some who don't qualify as prospects). Their Draft didn't unfold exactly as planned, with one first-round righty (Walker Buehler) needing Tommy John surgery and another (Kyle Funkhouser) not signing, but Los Angeles remains bullish on Buehler and has high hopes for potential future double-play combination Willie Calhoun and Brendon Davis.

    Biggest jump/fall
    Here are the players whose ranks changed the most from the 2015 preseason list to the 2016 preseason list.

    Jump: Jharel Cotton, RHP (2015: 27 | 2016: 9)
    Fall: Julian Leon, C (2015: 13 | 2016: NR)

    Best tools
    Players are graded on a 20-80 scouting scale for future tools -- 20-30 is well below average, 40 is below average, 50 is average, 60 is above average and 70-80 is well above average.

    Hit: Seager (70)
    Power: Seager (60)
    Run: Micah Johnson (75)
    Arm: Alex Verdugo (65)
    Defense: Ronny Brito (60)
    Fast ball: Jacob Rhame (70)
    Curve ball: Urias (60)
    Slider: Frankie Montas (55)
    Changeup: Urias (60)
    Control: Zach Lee (55)

    MLB's Top 10 farm systems
    Rank Date
    1. Los Angeles Dodgers
    2. Atlanta Braves
    3. Texas Rangers
    4. Colorado Rockies
    5. Minnesota Twins
    6. Boston Red Sox
    7. Philadelphia Phillies
    8. Pittsburgh Pirates
    9. Milwaukee Brewers
    10. Houston Astros

    How they were built
    Draft: 17
    International: 8
    Trade: 5

    Breakdown by ETA
    2016: 11
    2017: 2
    2018: 8
    2019: 6
    2020: 3

    Breakdown by position
    C: 2
    1B: 1
    2B: 3
    3B: 0
    SS: 3
    OF: 6
    RHP: 14
    LHP: 1
     
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    ETA 2016 = 11
    yikes
    thats a lot of dudes this season
    makes the injuries of some of our lower end players not that much of a big deal
    we got lots of young prospects ready to step in within months
     
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    yup depth
     
  11. CapnTreee

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    depth be good

    damned modern ballplayers are made of eggshells held together with paper mache'
     
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    • Dodgers prospect Julio Urias, a 19-year-old left-hander, gave up two runs on three hits in his spring debut. He struck out the first three batters he faced in the seventh, but surrendered back-to-back doubles in the eighth. With Zack Greinke's move to Arizona and Brett Anderson lost to back surgery for three-to-five months, the Dodgers are looking at Urias as a possible starter. ''If he's throwing well enough and we feel good enough about him to be in the spot, it's realistic,'' Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said.

    Last statement seems to be a departure from the usual rhetoric concerning the young lefty.
     
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    His outing yesterday sure was a mixed bag but if he can keep his pitches down I think he has a real shot of debuting in 16'.
     
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    He's still young. I'd hate for the Dodgers to make the same mistake they made with Pedro Martinez.
     
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    i seriously doubt they'll make that mistake again
     
  16. CapnTreee

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    27 years and counting and yet you doubt? o_O
     
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    if i'm not mistaken, tommy was the one who felt pedro was too small/frail
    [and also the one who traded konerko in his short stint as gm]
    we have brighter minds now
    and they'd never do anything that stupid
    or at least that's what i'm led to believe
    i mean, they wouldn't trade him, would they?
    would they???
     
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    Cody Bellinger is turning some heads so far this Spring. Most people's knock on him was that they had only seen the power for one year in the Cal League so some kept him ranked lower. Excited to see him as this year is off to a very good start. Also just had a great AB against Lyles.
     
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    I think they've already displayed that they would not trade him per se, but use him too early? Definitely.
    Depth is all well and good, and of course you need it...but for every time you need to use your "depth" players, the original, front line, first choice player is not out there, for whatever reason. If you sign a bunch of pitchers with a history of injuries, then you get a McCarthy, and even worse, an Anderson situation. You also need to win, so you use your best...maybe way to early. There very well could he more to come...
    For whatever reasons stated over and over again by the blindly faithful, they still let the batting champion and one of the best, proven pitchers in bb go, by whatever means.
    So, if "depth" is the counter balance, then we should win it all, hands down...we'll see. I hope so.
    I don't think they are infallible as many think, and are capable of bonehead moves, by addition, or subtraction, like anyone else.
    As far as Lasorda, his monumental poor judgement on Kenerko and HoF guy Pedro will always be an albatross around his neck...but he'll always have WS rings and appearances for a measure of balance. And that Cooperstown thing.
    Just my tuppence. But this "future looks bright" and "depth" thing is being used to death...and not one pitch thrown in anger yet.
     
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    I don't get this one, Zoo...s'plain it to me. How is the Anderson situation worse than the McCarthy situation?
     
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