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  1. back2back x 2 + 1

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    Do they find a deal for Uribe?
     
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    I mean if you have Kendrick at 2B and Rollins at SS..both usually play 140 games. Their back ups aren't seeing much time..barring an injury. Guerrero may as well be gone regardless.

    And so Turner's prime spot would be sharing with Uribe. But if an older Olivera steps in at some high dollar figure, he's gonna play and so another position is locked so to speak. So Turner or Uribe might have to go..and I like Turner at 3B and don't really like the idea of him losing the chance to get maybe 40-50 starts at one position (3B). But I guess at that point he'd get a little time in every spot..if they keep him at all.
     
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    Not sure, but Turner is a utility guy who can play different positions. Uribe at his age, is not. Turner is still an excellent pinch hitter and letting him go would be stupid. Even if Olivera is signed, both he and Uribe are health ? marks.
     
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    I think Uribe would have to go. That was in one of the reports if I remember correctly..that they'd look to deal him. That would suck, but they'd get younger..probably bring Hernandez up as the main back up SS. Even in spot starts and spot appearances, SS is just not for Turner.
     
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    • The Dodgers will sign right-hander Chad Gaudin to a minor league deal, and he will be a non-roster invitee to Major League Spring Training, tweets MLB.com’s Ken Gurnick. The 31-year-old Gaudin sat out the 2014 season as he recovered from neck surgery but was quite good with the 2013 Giants, working to a 3.06 ERA (with a 3.34 FIP and 4.00 xFIP) in 97 innings. Gaudin has experience as both a starter and a reliever in parts of 11 Major League seasons — the bulk of which have come with the Athletics. He has a lifetime 4.44 ERA with 7.1 K/9, 4.2 BB/9 and a 42.4 percent ground-ball rate in 836 1/3 Major League innings. Gaudin also worked out for the division-rival Diamondbacks recently.
     
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    That's Puig's best friend on the team. But yeah, Uribe would be on the block, which I am kind of meh on, Uribe could make a good bench coach... Turner can play 3B and 2B and even played a couple games at 1B, which is valuable and if he has another season like last season, he would become a very valuable trade asset. I'd assume Barney stashed in the minors would be the SS if something happened to Rollins.
     
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    would be tough to let uribe go
    but i think you guys are right that he'd be the one
    still, wouldn't be the worst problem to have
     
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    Yeah I forgot about Barney. Just shows..Arruba and Guerrero have nothing going. Well, at least Arruba can play minor league ball or whatever. I wonder if they'd try to strap Guerrero to Uribe's back and get them both dealt in the same deal if Olivera is signed..what they'd really need if Olivera is signed is that oh so holy Uribe/Ethier/Guerrero package deal. Lol
     
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    Will Dre have full and equal opportunity to compete for the left field position against CC? Dre feels he is one of the three best outfielders, who does he consider the other two to be? Having articulated that I wonder if CC, Joc or Puig have a question about him saying that to the press. He said in the off season they made a decision last year and that obviously didn't work out. Who was that? Kemp or CC? Surely not Puig. It isn't always what is said but as the discussion in this thread has revealed how it is heard and interpreted by others and as we unfortunately know reported by others. One of the unfortunate things I believe is that it was reported the discussion occurred in the locker room within ear shot of other players some new and others not.
     
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    Ethier is a fool if he thinks his performance warrants the claim of being one of the top 3 outfielders. And mouthing off to the press makes him a tool also.

    Imagine 2009 again? Why? That was 6 years long ago and while there used to be louder malcontents in the locker room, there doesn't have to be ANY.

    Cut out the cancer at once... trade him for a 12 pack and it doesn't need to be cold... Next!!
     
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    I only like the idea of Ethier giving CC a day off here and there. I mean when's the last time Ethier had a stretch against left handed pitching that was nearly as good as Crawford's last year? Bush may have been in office. Lol. Crawford can handle a lefty switch and the less in game moves by Mattingly, the better. Just get 9 inning guys in there and let them play.

    Anyway, I think only 1 guy in the NL was hotter than CC in the 2nd half last year and that was Kemp. He hit the ball hard consistently after coming back from the ankle injury. And if we're taking history into account, CC's playoff resume is far more impressive than Ethier's as well, so the playoff pedigree is there. If Crawford were showing as many cracks I'd say give Ethier a real shot, but Crawford just hit .300, stole 23 bags and hit 1st, 2nd, 5th and 6th in the lineup..quality and versatility. I want CC in..a day off here and there vs. righties to make sure he can have his usual strong 2nd half. That'd be ideal.
     
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    agreed
    they both had roughly the same amount of ab's
    and carl [300/.339/.429] was far better than dre [.249/.322/.370] offensively
    carl's WAR numbers were also better, both offensively and (surprisingly to me) defensively as well
    in a perfect world they ship ethier and give those spot starts to van slyke
    i just don't see anyone taking ethier without us pitching in a huge amount -- far more than we did to unload kemp
     
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    The issue is not who anyone wants to play the question is does Dre have equal standing and opportunity to compete. In your scenario he doesn't. If he believes that it could become a problem.
     
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    Ok now we begin to see how the press can take a event of one level and escalate it just like they did last year. Pushing the outfield situation in Spring Training even when Kemp etc was recovering by asking but yeah what about when everyone is healthy. Note the reporting in this video and is it what really happened yesterday?
    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/...-wants-trade-not-starting-los-angeles-dodgers
     
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    Today's word:


    delusion



    noun de·lu·sion \di-ˈlü-zhən, dē-\
    : a belief that is not true : a false idea

    : a false idea or belief that is caused by mental illness


    The press cornered him up, he didn't go seeking them. You want to blame somebody, blame the media. They are trying to find something to sensationalize, just like they always do...and you are slurping it up.

    He met Monday with various members of the front office who were supposed to have traded him by now and manager Don Mattingly. Ethier said he hoped they went back to their desks with the same notion: “Just that I’m serious in my intentions of what I have planned to do, how I plan on playing this year and the rest of my career. I feel that I’m not overstepping my boundaries. I’m just being honest with where I’m at.”

    I don't see a complaint there. He wants to play. If not here, then somewhere else. That's called honesty, that's called being up front, that's called being a team player. Ethier has shown on more than one occasion that he is the guy that does what is asked of him without telling the media "I'm not gonna be a 4th outfielder" or "I'm not a left fielder".

    He may be wrong about the type of player he is at this stage of his career, he may not live up to his salary, he may be fooling himself or overvaluing himself, but he is not a complainer and he is not complaining. I get that you want him gone. That does not make him a bad person or a "cancer" (geez, reach much, Capn?) The facts are that Kemp acted out 100 times worse than anything Dre has ever done or said, but he was tolerated because he could produce runs.
     
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    Another piece of the Dre drama not for now but in a couple of years
    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/...les-dodgers-sign-andre-ethier-new-5-year-deal
    The deal, which begins next season and runs through 2017, also includes a vesting club option for 2018 for $17.5 million with a $2.5 million buyout.



    Ethier will receive salaries of $13.5 million in 2013, $15.5 million in 2014, $18 million each in 2015 and 2016, and $17.5 million in 2017. The option will vest if Ethier has at least 550 plate appearances in 2017 or at least 1,100 plate appearances combined in 2016-17.
     
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    Hey Zeus, Cappy. Don't hurt yourself jumping to all those conclusions. He didn't "mouth off to the press", the press cornered him up, he didn't go looking for them. And a cancer? Really? He would barely rate status as a "zit", he is certainly not a cancer. He's always been a guy to do what they ask him to do. He did it last year, and the year before-without running to the press and saying "I'm not a 4th outfielder".
     
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    Yeah, we can already see that is not going to happen.
     
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    This is what was said then and now?
    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/...les-dodgers-sign-andre-ethier-new-5-year-deal

    Ethier's signing comes on the heels of two others by the Dodgers. At the end of spring training last year, they locked up right-hander Chad Billingsley with a three-year, $35 million deal that didn't begin until this season. Last winter, shortly before that initial meeting between Colletti and Ethier, the Dodgers signed star center fielder Matt Kemp to an eight-year, $160 million contract, the richest in franchise history.



    It is a clear indication that one of the goals is to keep the core of the team together as long as possible, something that caused Kasten to reminisce on his own time as president of the Atlanta Braves, who won 14 consecutive division titles during his tenure.



    "I don't know if [the Braves] were successful because they stayed together or if they stayed together because they were successful," Kasten said. "But I do know it felt better for the fans. They felt like they grew up with that team. ... [Ethier] is good on the field, he is an All-Star, a Gold Glove player. He is obviously a solid family person who loves this community and has worked in this community. That is a solid profile.

    "That is what we want the Dodgers to be. It is special to be a Dodger. The more players we can get to feel that way, the better off we will all be."



    Sorta funny as Dre is one of the few stay together group still here and he may have one foot out the door
     
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