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  1. Fall Winslow

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    Only thing is Donaldson is 30yrs old, not 26, so I wouldn't give up as much as I would if he were 26, but yeah I went down the same path as you after reading the piece.
    I've wondered aloud here and there if the nerds partly passed on locking in Frazier/Turner @ 3B for multiple years because they were waiting on the right opportunity to make a splash.
    They wanted Andrelton Simmons to be that splash on the left side side of the IF, but yeah maybe Donaldson is on their radar now?
    Perhaps they're privy to what's going on with TOR and Donaldson and maybe he becomes available at some point soon here?

    Donaldson's hardly made any money in comp to others at his age/position and he still doesn't hit FA until after 2018, after his age 32 season.
    Utley's contract this year actually squashes Donaldson's career earnings if you can believe that, late bloomer in OAK.
    IMO, if you're willing to trade for Andrelton Simmons and pay him 6MM-8MM-11MM in successive seasons, you're probably willing to trade for Donaldson and pay him 11MM for this year and still have 2 years of control left thereafter.
    Granted, it's gonna cost you higher level prospects to get Donaldson ( although he is 4 years older than Simmons), but of course the upside is also greater.

    Of course it'd have to fall all the way apart between Toronto and Donaldson for anything to happen, but we now have Zaidi and AA, 2 guys who've had the player and coveted him, should be keyed into what's going on up there between Donaldson and the Jays.
    If TOR/Donaldson does end up breaking it off up north, Dodgers have built quite a bit of depth to trade from, so perhaps LAD will be in the mix?
    The fact that Donaldson is under control for 3yrs at a steal of a price is huge here.
    All that said, we need to sign Lazarito and add a little more depth ( to possibly trade from), so AA needs to get on that.
     
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    I believe the DH gives the AL teams a decisive advantage over the NL teams. Specifically, greater flexibility
     
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    Interesting... There are a couple things we do know: Donaldson would be a great fit in LA as a 3B and RH power bat, and (whatever Toronto's motivation for jerking him around in arbitration) Toronto isn't committed to him longterm. Toronto is in a "win now" window, but if they struggle the first half of this year or next you have to believe Donaldson would at least come up in talks. I'm not too excited, I could see this as a situation similar to Philadelphia with Cole Hamels... we'll hear trade rumors for years but in the end Toronto will be asking for a ridiculous price. But still, Donaldson would be a great fit with our current team AND we have the pieces to make a legit/killer offer in return.
     
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    its like golf
    btw, soccer is also like this, there are general guidelines but fields can vary
     
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    I'll go further and say I despise the DH, but that is just me
     
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    If Toronto were to put Donaldson on the block right now for one reason or another they'd not only want prospects, AAA talent on the doorstep and maybe a guy from the younger group, but they'd probably want Turner as well because they're looking to stay in the race for the WS and Turner could help right away.
    I like him, but I'd trade Turner with the quickness. Lol
    Not sure what else it'd take to get Donaldson, not overly excited about the speculation either, but I also don't mind the topic.

    Toronto could use starting pitching, so initially I'd probably offer DeLeon along with Turner/Wood/25MM in cash and Crawford, something similar to that, maybe throw in another spec.
    Make it so CC is a low risk/medium reward guy for them in LF, they do need a LF, they need a bridge to Alford and he could help there in rotation with the guys they already.
    Maybe somebody would come along with a better offer for Donaldson, but I wouldn't up the offer to include Urias, would just have to work it out another way.

    If I were a part of the FO I'd vote against including Urias in any trade, really don't care who's coming back.
    I just couldn't be a part of trading a potential Fernandomania away from the perfect market for him to perform in.
    Kid is truly a lotto ticket in Socal and should be more valuable to the Dodgers than any other team.
    May seem racist, but if Urias weren't Mexican, then I'd take calls on him, but as it is I'd designate him with the untouchable label, must see what we have there.
     
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    Royals Sign Lorenzo Cain To Two-Year Deal
    By Jeff Todd | January 18, 2016 at 3:20pm CST

    The Royals announced on Monday that they have reached a two-year contract with All-Star center fielder Lorenzo Cain that will buy out his final two seasons of arbitration eligibility for a $17.5MM guarantee. Cain, a client of All Bases Covered Sports Management, will is set to earn $6.5MM for the coming season and $11MM in 2017, per reports.
     
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    Yes, forgot about golf, you are right about that...but are you sure a soccer pitch deviates in size?
    Also, further thought about it, there are several Olympic type sports where the "playing field" differs...like luge, ski jumping, slalom, equestrian, etc.
     
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    You're right...but that advantage is only within the AL, and who cares? When interleague occurs, I think the NL has the advantage actually...just put a good bench player in there for the pitcher; and. when it's reversed, in a NL park, the AL team has to scramble using a guy who is one dimensional much of the time ( like Big Papiloma), or stick a guy in there who is not a regular on defense. And managers have to manage...lol.
    Unfortunately, to me and some others, you'll probably get your way.
    This would be a shotfor the new commish to emblazon his legacy with NLDH. Like Bud, Mr. Coward Selig with his double WC and AS ( douchey already) winner with home field advantage.
     
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    Its because none of these sports are sports.
    They are pastimes.
     
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    Stevie Wonder can see this point better than you.

    What contracts? -"the bad, not so brilliant, long contracts" < your words.

    Kevin Brown
    Juan Pierre
    Darren Dreifort
    Carlos Perez
    Jeff Shaw
    Andy Ashby
    Odalis Perez
    Jeff Weaver
    Brad Penny
    Derek Lowe
    Rafeal Furcal
    Jose Cruz
    Nomar
    Andruw Jones
    Jason Schmidt
    Ted Lilly
    Kemp
    Brandon League
    J.D. Drew

    I'm sure I've left some out. But all of these deals were either bad, not too smart, or just too long. So we've been doing what you want to do all these years and we don't have any rings to show for it. But we should just continue to do it, right? The definition of insanity to to continue to do the same thing over and over, and expect a different result.
     
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    Sure.
     
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    The DH is a grotesque disfigurment of the game. It should be shunned like the plague.
     
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    My feeling about the DH is that the league should either expand to 32 teams and get rid of interleague play(sorry, I hate it), or stay at 30 and have the DH in both leagues. I honestly don't hate the DH and would kind of prefer that the league adopt it for both sides. It does put the NL at somewhat a disadvantage when they get to the World Series and the team uses a guy in the DH or out in the field that should be a bench player. I know that the records don't necessarily always reflect that, but it does come up for certain teams that do make the World Series. Get everyone on an equal playing field from the start. Plus, it's a fun way for NL teams to keep guys around for a few more years and more in play for longer term contracts. The NL adopting the DH would be perfect timing for the Dodgers. AGon could continue his career as a DH while Bellinger comes in to take his spot at 1B.
     
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    agree with you on interleague play
    but not on the dh
    if for no other reason, it removes any consequence if a pitcher decides to throw at someone
    plus i also like the double switch/bullpen management part of the game
     
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    As someone who did pitch, I can tell you knowing that you can't be thrown at in retaliation does not change your mindset for the worse. I only ever threw at players in games that I was also hitting, unless I was throwing at someone in retaliation for one of of my guys(Fuck you, Chacon!). The last thing I ever wanted was one of the big bats in the lineup to get hit for something I did, because you'll feel like a dick for that and your teammates will get pissed at you. The only players that will do something like that are pieces of shits who don't care about any of their teammates and that stuff will get settled behind closed doors. I understand the bullpen management part, but like I said, all 32 teams should be on equal playing fields from day 1, the DH does not allow for that.
     
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    MLB single team package is $85, full MLB package is being reduced to $110. So like was predicted, the difference in prices was pretty minimal.
    Edit: You will also be able to watch the visiting teams telecast in your local market as long as you have a TV package that does include the local RSN channel.
     
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  19. More old people retorick. The game is changing Irish. Get with the program. I'd rather see 9 hitters hit.
     
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    Or perhaps YG could slide from catcher to 1B if it turns out that Bellinger isn't the guy for 1B and Leon is ready to take over at catcher by that time?
    Or maybe Turner is still around and moves to 1B, Corey moves to 3B and they finally get that stellar glove @ SS?
    Bellinger being a lefty helps at 1B tho, so here's hoping he stays on track.
    Either way it opens up more options for a team that's stacking depth.
    This talk started bubbling about a year ago and it's been building since then.
    My take is, like it or not the owners are now more receptive to it and we're heading in that direction, so ultimately I'm where you are...as in how we're going to benefit from it
     
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